How do you hold the R9?

[Reinz]

Howdy Chinook, thanks, thats good info.  That tells me that the gun is just a little too jumpy for ya.

The VZ's may help a little, or at least for a few mags, then poop out on ya.

If you need more  help try this.

Now this goes against most modern training, but if it keeps you for ditching this little wonder, who cares?

Assuming that you are right handed, with your left hand, take your left fore finger and bring it up to the front of the trigger gaurd.  Now you want to curl that finger around the front of the trigger gaurd up to the second joint if possible; almost like you were going to shoot a double action trigger. 

Now with this finger, you apply pressure STRAIGHT BACK- just like you should with a trigger.  This is the reason trainers don't like this method.  Most shooters have a hard time pulling STRAIGHT BACK. Most shooters pull to the left. Therefore, their bullets miss the intended target to the left.

It will feel weird and require practice, but I assure you, this will reduce the hopping of the gun, thus reduce/stop the finger biting. ( I've gone 150 rounds no problems)

Also, if you can practice both thumbs forward, this will give you the highest possibe grip and the Most grip possibe, thus more control over the gun.

I know the pic looks like all thumbs and fingers, but keep in mind the size of the gun.

[C0untZer0]

I'm still using stock Rohrbaugh grips.  I get thwacked in the trigger finger occasionally when I shoot two handed.  I bought a pair of Nike batting gloves and they save my hand and they work.  I tried a bunch on at a Sporting goods store and bought the smoothest most form fitting glove I could find - especially soft pliable leather on the finger tips and smart seam & stiching.   I judge that by putting the glove on an pulling an imaginary trigger, if the glove is interefring with that motion - it sucks.  A quality shooting glove or batting glove won't interfere with the trigger oull motion.   The batting glove is pretty thin too, it doesn't have to be a thick glove, just a little bit of leather there keeps my finger fine.   It doesn't happen when I shoot one handed because my whole arm rises up with the recoil - probably makes for slow follow-up shots but it is what it is.

I personally don't see the sense in mag extensions, I got the R9 because it is the smalles lightest 9mm out there, so IMO if I'm going to make it the size of a PM9 - I should have bought a PM9 in the first place (but I don't so I won't).

The other thing that I do, I exercise my fingers, wrists and forearms quite a lot to build up and maintain hand strength.

[MRC]

COuntZerO said


I personally don't see the sense in mag extensions, I got the R9 because it is the smalles lightest 9mm out there, so IMO if I'm going to make it the size of a PM9 - I should have bought a PM9 in the first place (but I don't so I won't).

I have found that yankee's extensions made the pistol no harder to carry or conceal in my front pocket.  In fact they make the pistol easier and faster to draw and acquire the proper grip.

If you don't have a PM9, you should.   JMO

[Chinook]

Now with this finger, you apply pressure STRAIGHT BACK- just like you should with a trigger.

This is an interesting idea.  It's like providing a "vise-like" condition that could stabilize everything.  It's counter-intuitive, of course, to push back when the backward motion is what's causing the problem.  I'll try it.

Re the VZs: They come in three styles; G10 material with and without checkering and carbon fiber w/o checkering.  I'm not sure what G10 material is nor how it compares to carbon fiber.  If the carbon fiber were checked, that would probably be my choice.  Which one is recommended?

Thanks

PS.  I just acquired my first new (used) handgun of the year and my wife reminded me of my 3 handgun limit per year...  She has yet to impose a limit on accessaries so the VZs can be on the table without putting further gun acquisitions at risk...

[Reinz]

The most popular among members are the Checkered G-10s and the Carbon Fiber.

After trying out my first pair of CF, I was so impressed how they felt and worked, I bought 3 more pair for my other R9's , even though I was and still am curious about the checkered G10.


Well, gotta be honest here too.      Looks play a big role as well.  To ME, the CF just outshines the G10s as well. 

[Reinz]

Now with this finger, you apply pressure STRAIGHT BACK- just like you should with a trigger.

This is an interesting idea.  It's like providing a "vise-like" condition that could stabilize everything.  It's counter-intuitive, of course, to push back when the backward motion is what's causing the problem.  I'll try it.

You are correct, it CAn be vise-like if used properly. There MUst be some forward pressure/lean whatever you want to call it, also.   

If you are shooting with one foot in front of the other, then there should be about 60% of your weight on your front foot, thus 40% on your back.   Also, when you pull back with your left forefinger, you must resist that pressure or very slight push back with your grip hand.  I am talking minute movements here.  It can be awkward at first and it you don't pay attention, shots will go all over the plalce.

If you shoot from an Icosoles position, feet square with firing line about shoulder width apart or bit more, you gently flex your knees and put a little weight forward at all points: balls of toes, ankles, knees, and shoulders.  (These points go for the above Weaver, modified Weaver as well)


This all may sound more complicated than it really is.  But when you start shooting, it is just makes sense.


Hope this helps

[Chinook]

The most popular among members are the Checkered G-10s and the Carbon Fiber.

Are the CFs completely smooth?  Is the G10 material a plastic?  There can't be much difference in weight but the CFs would likely be stronger.

I wonder if the carbon fibers restrict the ability to impress checkering??  Does checkering aid in holding the R9??  If so, then checkered G10s, even if structurally inferior to CFs, would be the choice...

[Reinz]

Howdy Chinook - the Gi10s are not plastic, they are fiber- based like micardia.   And the CF are actually G10 with CF mixed in.  As far as why checkering is not offered with the CF, I have no idea. 

Now even though the CF comes across smooth, they still offer great gripping capacity.

As far as weight, it's not an issue.

If you are having difficulty deciding, I would go with the G10, it may be more of sure thing.

Hope this helps.