rohrbaugh misses the mark, sadly

[Robar233]

Judgnot,

 I owned a Kahr MK40 and sold it because it was too heavy to carry in a front pocket. I tried and it looked and felt like I had a boat anchor in my pocket. I sold the MK40 and bought the PM40 as it is much lighter. Polymer frame vs Steel. The recoil of the PM40 gave my trigger finger a blister after 60 rounds. I sold this gun. I then bought the R9 based on information learned in this forum and seeing the pistol in person. It was a custom engraved model so it was a look only! I bought a Robar edition R9 and have not regretted it for a split second.
 The R9 is the best pocket pistol I have found. Mine shoots like a dream. The trigger is as smooth as silk. The recoil is not at all bad. Would I rather have a .40 over a 9mm YES!
 But I would much rather have a R9 that I can carry, unseen, all day long that a .40 boat anchor!
 Robar233

[Trailblazer]

SHOOT before you talk!

[eye_spy]

I would urge you to try one. You can shoot it all you want, it will last. I agree about checkering, but I simply use a slip on hogue style grip and it completely solved that issue.

I have a $h!t load of incredible firearms, this is one that I can't say enough good about.  The weight is perfect, the build is second to none, and no it is not perfect....it is jjust the closest thing I have found after buying and selling endless guns to get to this.

I respect your opinion, even if it is wrong

We will still be here when you see the light.

[eye_spy]

Ps,

If I bought the rohrbaugh about 5 years sooner, I would have saved nearly 8k on firearms.  So 1200 for the pup is a bargain.

Not that it matters, but I am a certified executive protection specialist, so firearms are a necessity for me, I only Keep the best.

As noted in a prior post, kahr is a great gun.  I have had 2 and still have 1.  It is noticeable heavier and although I like it, it is no rohrbaugh in my opinion.

Now let's bitch about having to replace a 5 dollar spring, it has been to long.

[judgnot]

It's obvious that you all are big proponents of these guns.  I didn't mean any disrespect to you or the gun.  The gun isn't for me.  I don't do aluminum frames especially not when they're paper thin in areas, and so that pretty much ends it for me.  The lack of checkering just seems like a cop out in a gun like this.  

I read about Cirillo in one of my monthly blue press issues earlier this year.  Sounds like he certainly had experience shooting people.  He may have considered these guns the best backups in the world at that time but that doesn't make up for the deficiencies that I find in the gun.  We could sit here and speculate about ways he might have improved the gun and I suspect at least checkering would have been on his list but in the end it's all just personal preference.  

I appreciate all of your conversation on the matter.  Having said that I'm not sure there is much left for me here on this forum as I'll not be buying this gun until it is offered in steel.

I know 34 year olds are supposed to be savvy with computers but I'm here to disappoint.  Attaching my GTO pictures sounds like a frustration I'm not interested in taking on.  I'd be happy to email them to someone more capable but then again there are plenty of 69 GTO pictures to be seen.  

[Reinz]

Judgnot - welcome to the forum

I used to own a 69 Goat myself.  That horrific army tank green.  But I still loved it and wish I still had it.

Aside from that, not everyone appreciates, understands or just plain digs fine German cars.  Same goes for the R9.  It is not for everyone.  However, if you do have the opportunity to examine one closely or even better, shoot one, then maybe your taste will change.

I found my holy grail after a 30 + year search, I hope that you can find yours.

[eye_spy]

I do respect your opinion and I think you have represented your point well.  I too was not big on aluminum, but it works.  I have 2500…lus rounds on the r9  never an issue.

I have 11200 rounds on a kimber ultra cdp2 and it has never been an issue.  I figure if I break the r9, they will fix it and if they don't, I will still get another one, because comfort comes at a price.

Try a ruger lcr in 357   I have one and I like it.

[judgnot]

"That horrific army tank green"

Ahh, Verdero green.. common color for that year.  :-/


I'm sure you guys are right on the money.  I'm sure the aluminum is fine for lower round counts.  I'm traditional.  Even my Kahr is steel, the K9.  Why carry around the extra weight when I could have the composite frame and accomplish the exact same thing?  Good question... Because it's steel I suppose, just how I like it.

[kjtrains]

"That horrific army tank green"

Ahh, Verdero green.. common color for that year.  :-/


I'm sure you guys are right on the money.  I'm sure the aluminum is fine for lower round counts.  I'm traditional.  Even my Kahr is steel, the K9.  Why carry around the extra weight when I could have the composite frame and accomplish the exact same thing?  Good question... Because it's steel I suppose, just how I like it.

judgnot.  You may have read the posts on the 5000+ rd counts of R9's and they keep on ticking with no reports of damage.  At any rate, you know what you like and that's good.

Hard to get someone to like something if their mind is made up on something else; so here's wishing you good luck and do hope you'll at least try an R9.  5000+ rds isn't shabby.

[Trailblazer]

Judgnot....you need a Sig 228 German made!

[kjtrains]

Judgnot....you need a Sig 228 German made!

Let's stick with something American made!    

[flintsghost]

It's obvious that you all are big proponents of these guns.  I didn't mean any disrespect to you or the gun.  The gun isn't for me.  I don't do aluminum frames especially not when they're paper thin in areas, and so that pretty much ends it for me.  The lack of checkering just seems like a cop out in a gun like this.  

I read about Cirillo in one of my monthly blue press issues earlier this year.  Sounds like he certainly had experience shooting people.  He may have considered these guns the best backups in the world at that time but that doesn't make up for the deficiencies that I find in the gun.  We could sit here and speculate about ways he might have improved the gun and I suspect at least checkering would have been on his list but in the end it's all just personal preference.  

I appreciate all of your conversation on the matter.  Having said that I'm not sure there is much left for me here on this forum as I'll not be buying this gun until it is offered in steel.

I know 34 year olds are supposed to be savvy with computers but I'm here to disappoint.  Attaching my GTO pictures sounds like a frustration I'm not interested in taking on.  I'd be happy to email them to someone more capable but then again there are plenty of 69 GTO pictures to be seen.  

I think you have made it abundantly clear that you don't like the Rohrbaugh and so I have one statement and one question.

The statement is that your inexperience in carrying and using weapons for defense is begining to show.   My question is...given your dislike for these pistols, why are you still here?

[Chihuahua TN]

judgnot, my deep sincerest condolences.

I would suggest the Seecamp 380,  Kahr MK series or the AMT back-up in 45acp they are all stainless steel .

Mike

[C0untZer0]

I was considering the MK9 because it is slightly smaller than the PM9/CM9 and I thought that the little extra mass would help manage the recoil.

But I want a pocket pistol for carry.  I have a HK P7M8 - relatively compact, but heavy all steel pistol.  If I want to CCW IWB - the P7M8 will be my gun for that, but I know that for carry in warm weather I am looking for something in the range of a 5.5 x 4.0 form factor.

I figured out how much the MK9 weighed fully loaded and tried to carry that much weight in my pocket and realized it was not going to work.  Too heavy, too bothersome for pocket carry, even in a jacket,

The R9 though at 17oz loaded is no problem.

So, I don't think that weight doesn't factor - it is a huge factor for me, and even though I thought the MK9 was neat - it ended up being too heavy.

[Richard S]

In praise of aircraft aluminum frames:

F-16 CJ Fighting Falcon, airframe 80% aluminum.