Critcal Defense FTX 115g

[hoserack]

hoserack,
Did the video show you this?

This is why I don't use any Hornady CD in any of my guns...


note the two on the left are from my hi power, the two on the right my R9....

mike

When did you purchase these rounds?
Like I said in the opening of this thread, I am aware the rounds had primer issues a couple years back.
Are they using reliable primers currently.
Everyone makes mistakes, has it been corrected.

[hoserack]

Sunday is my birthday, I'll be 45.
I'm going shooting with 4 of my buddies.
I'm bringing my new M1A rifle I put in a EBR Stock, a Glock 27, 23 & my R-9.
I'm going to gander mountain today to buy 2 boxes of CD FTX.
I will shoot 40 rounds and save 10 for carry if they all go bang.
I will let you guys know.

[kjtrains]

Great.  I am interested to hear how it does.

[Reinz]

Hoserack - Happy (early) Birthday!  and have a great party at the range with your buddies.

I sincerely hope the CD's work 100%

[hoserack]

Well the birthday shootout went well.
I had another buddy bring his new R9 to help with the range report.
I had 10 rounds of old CD FTX I bought a couple years ago and 2 new boxes.
My friend shot 18 rounds out of his new R9 and they all went bang. He did have 1 FTL but it did fire once loaded.

My PuP must be a really good build because It never FTF or FTL. I shot the 10 old rounds and 25 more new rounds and all of the CD FTX went bang with no FTL.

I now feel confident that the 7 rounds I saved for carry will fire.

My next question is do they expand the way they claim?
Also, do they expand well with no Clothes on the geletin?
If so, I would think it is a good Self defense carry round.

[MRC]

Thanks for the report.  Did any of the primers in the fired cases show  signs of being hard?  Were there any "fried egg" looking  primers?

I have a Colt Pocket Nine which has problems with certain loads that are fine in other pistols.  I have never figured out if it is light hits or pressure problems.

I only received one box of the CD so I don't know if I will get the chrongraph out or not, but I will try to get out this week for accuracy and function tests anyway.

[yankee2500]

I have fired the CD 380s and 9mms and never had a problem with a FTF, but after reading about issues others had and the lack of first class customer service I stopped using them.
  I have trouble putting my life in the hands of a company that   will buy any primer they can get, who knows when they will buy more hard primers. For my piece of mind I'll to stick ammo that hasn't had a primer issue.

[kjtrains]

Still have a box; will use them in the Glock.    

[MRC]

Since I reload nearly everything that I shoot, I can tell you that we all had to "buy any primer that we could get" from 2008 up until about 8 months ago.  I load about everything on a progressive loader so I always stuck with Winchester as they had the hardest cup material. When Winchester small pistol became impossible for me to find, I used whatever was on the shelf.  I got ahold of some Remington and the only thing they would work in were the striker-fired Glocks and Kahrs.

Hornady is a good company and I know they will fix the problems when possible.

With today's Global Economy, who know where the other manufacturer's components are coming from.

[kjtrains]

I do use Hornady's .300 gr .44 Mag in the Ruger Super Blackhawk and will continue to do so;  always performs as it should.  I've used this for years and know it's good stuff.

I know Hornady, if not already, will solve this issue.

[hoserack]

Every Company makes mistakes.
I have a small business and we make mistakes.
I and hopefully Hornaday make corrections as soon as they realize there is a problem.
I will for now give them a chance and hopefully no new problems occur.

[yankee2500]

I understand about the supply issues and that mistakes can be made and everyone deserves a second chance, just not with my life. There are other choices as good or better from top manufacturers that haven't made a mistake.
   I'll stick with the Winchester Ranger LE ammo and Gold Dots which come in boxes of 50 for about the same price as 20 CDs.

[Reinz]

Hoserack - glad to hear that your birthday shootout went well.

As well as the successful test on the CD FTX Ammo.

Thanks for getting back to us with the range report.

Since they all went bang, I don't see why they would not do everything else as advertised.

[kjtrains]

hoserack.  I, too, am glad your shootout went well with the CD's; forgot to mention that.  Thanks for the info.

[hoserack]

Thanks for the report.  Did any of the primers in the fired cases show  signs of being hard?  Were there any "fried egg" looking  primers?

I have a Colt Pocket Nine which has problems with certain loads that are fine in other pistols.  I have never figured out if it is light hits or pressure problems.

I only received one box of the CD so I don't know if I will get the chrongraph out or not, but I will try to get out this week for accuracy and function tests anyway.

I was going to try to save the brass, but we had 2 new shooters and 1 that never shot a gun before.
So with all that going on and brass every where to begin with I decided to let it go.

Let me know what you find out MRC.