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Offline Craigt

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Magazine dropping
« on: January 17, 2010, 06:48:00 PM »
I am having problems with the magazine dropping when firing the first round, but only when loaded with 6+1.  

A little background first:  I received my R9S in mid 2005.  For nearly 2 years I struggled with various FTF and jamming problems.  Finally when I discovered the new magazine springs in early 2007 this ended virtually all of the jamming / feeding problems.  In the last 142 rounds since replacing the mag springs there has been 1 jam when previously there was a jam in almost every mag full.

17% of mags-full I have shot have had, on the first round, the magazine drop down just enough so the next round is not picked up and chambered.  This only happens when loaded with 6 in the mag + 1 chambered.  Only.  Has never happened with 5+1.

I became so discouraged that I have not shot the R9S in three years.  I just finished my second range session this year, 107 rounds, the only problem is this mag drop problem.  5 times in 11 mags-full loaded 6+1.  I am almost to the place where I am comfortable carrying it but…I’m just not quite there yet.

I did a bit of searching and was not able to find any previous posts although I do recall reading some.

Is there a cure for this?  How many have also had this problem?  Any thoughts, comments, suggestions?  Any help is most appreciated.

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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2010, 07:02:33 PM »

I would call the factory on that one and maybe send it back to them assuming that it happens with multiple magazines and you have installed the springs correctly. It sounds like you have both of those bases covered, though.

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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2010, 07:54:08 PM »
Further, your magazine dropping has been reported on this forum as you described it but as I recall there was no stated resolution of the problem.
I can't find the thread but do remember it.
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2010, 08:30:52 PM »
« Last Edit: January 17, 2010, 08:50:23 PM by kjtrains »
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2010, 09:04:50 PM »
The second thread and response from "Erich" looks close to this problem.
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #5 on: January 17, 2010, 09:25:06 PM »
You would think so, but why doesn't the mag pop out with only 5 rds. loaded in the mag, and does with 6.
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #6 on: January 17, 2010, 09:32:39 PM »

Maybe a combination of less positive "catch", spring tension, etc., and a handling problem; hard to say.

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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #7 on: January 17, 2010, 09:39:03 PM »
Yes.  Does make sense.
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #8 on: January 17, 2010, 11:04:07 PM »
Thanks for the replys.  I have tried to analyze my grip and I can’t see how my hand is pressing the latch open when firing.  It might be happening, it just doesn’t seem possible.  Also, if it were, why only in the 6+1 condition?

Looks like I have another problem.  Just noticed this evening that I have one of the rare slides that forms a crack at the back end of the slide groove.  I have been on the lookout for it all along and it just started during today’s range session.  I know the factory will correct it but it is an annoyance to ship.  (Did I just hijack my own thread?)  I will be sure to mention the latch problem in case there is something the factory can do to correct that as well.

Craig T.

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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #9 on: January 17, 2010, 11:07:50 PM »
Craigt.  Thanks for letting us know.  Keep us posted.  Thanks again.
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #10 on: January 17, 2010, 11:14:15 PM »
Mid 2005 is about my vintage where I had a lot of problems prior to the slide crack and a factory slide replacement. There was something going on during this time other than "bad bar stock" and that is the basis for my suggestion to buy a new one given the choice on a new purchase. The slide replacement fixed everything.
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #11 on: January 17, 2010, 11:16:25 PM »
kjtrains, your links to past threads were quite helpful.  Thanks for those.  A little trip back to the factory and she will be better than new.

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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #12 on: January 17, 2010, 11:22:34 PM »
Exactly.  Customer Service at Rohrbaugh is beyond reproach.
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2010, 12:55:33 PM »
call Maria at Rorbaugh late next week, after they get back from the SHOT SHOW and tell her about the problem. May be a weak mag catch spring.   Tom
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Re: Magazine dropping
« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2010, 11:26:14 PM »
I keep forgetting about the SHOT Show.  Looks like it will be a couple of weeks before I will be able to talk with the factory.  Ah well.

Craig T.