Crffish, Ammotogo.com has Speer Gold Dots in 115 or 147 gr , $24.95 per 50 rd box. This is the LE version which, as far as I know, is the same as the regular type. If anyone knows otherwise I would really appreciate hearing from them. I have shot the 115 and 124 gr LE both in my R9s, with perfect results every time. Gene