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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #180 on: November 09, 2009, 12:41:32 PM »

"The squeaky wheel gets the grease."

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #181 on: November 09, 2009, 01:02:58 PM »
Correct, tracker. I stole a move from my old playbook as a professional buyer. Nothing works better than cancelling an order to get it to show up.

Quoted "8 to 12 weeks" with their emphasis on their intent to "improve" the delivery. Actual experience was 15 weeks, following my attempt to cancel.

The DeSantis 086 holster has done an okay job but the Rafter S holster is serious workmanship. The R9 rides higher on the wasteband and is more easily accessed.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #182 on: November 09, 2009, 01:15:35 PM »
Picture please.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #183 on: November 09, 2009, 02:02:13 PM »

Artistry and business acumen are quite often distant cousins.

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #184 on: November 09, 2009, 02:45:06 PM »
It does seem like the two abilities do not go hand in hand.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #185 on: November 09, 2009, 04:04:51 PM »
Fat Boy:

I do not own a camera. Product looks like pictures available on maker's website. I stand by what I said in this string regarding maker's customer service vs. the product they ship.

If you can hold your breath for a long, long time, (and pay up front), Rafter S product is superior stuff.

tracker and kjtrains concur on an important point. The "artist" modality is often in conflict with a vendor's business skills. I don't think they are bad people who have to learn how to become good people. I think they are good people, who make great stuff, who should be more honest with their customers relating to their ability to ship product within quoted time frame.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #186 on: November 09, 2009, 04:30:04 PM »
I worked in Brazil for a time, and was warned about their mode of their services.  If you wanted a suit tailored, or anything where the service was promised, they told you what you wanted to hear; time after time.  
Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.  Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #187 on: November 09, 2009, 06:38:15 PM »
Ditto, UK. Whenever I tried to expedite the Brits I was looking for a definitive commitment date. Instead, their uniform answer was "in good time".
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #188 on: November 09, 2009, 08:33:55 PM »
Well my holster and belt arrived today also, with the order being placed on July 16th, no record breaker but a very nice holster and belt. The pup will be very happy and secure in it's new home.
  I thought ACPs may show up also because they told me they were both finished about the same time and the only difference between them is the slide guard on mine.



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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #189 on: November 09, 2009, 08:47:29 PM »

Beautifully done!

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #190 on: November 09, 2009, 08:52:59 PM »
I was hoping John would show up as he was a week ahead of me. I never considered the slide guard and have no complaints with the holster, as ordered.

One thing that does not appear on website photographs which John may be able to handle:  Rafter S stitches a channel of parallel raised leather grooves into the interior of the holster; (dimensions 1.5" length, 1/4" height and 3/8" width). This channel guides the R9 sights, for good ingress and egress of the gun from the holster, and it imparts integrity to the fit of the gun while holstered.

Though the R9 rides higher in the Rafter than the 086 DeSantis holster, it is a superior fit. You know the one about the angel and the devil on your shoulder. Lousy customer service, great product.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #191 on: November 09, 2009, 09:01:24 PM »
John.  Good to hear your belt and holster arrived.  Excellent looking holster.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #192 on: November 09, 2009, 09:41:32 PM »
If there was a model for the R45 we could order a Rafter S holster for it now and only have a month wait after the gun is shown at the Shot Show in Jan.

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #193 on: November 10, 2009, 12:01:39 PM »
John, good point.  Tom
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #194 on: November 18, 2009, 05:14:02 PM »
Just got off the phone with Robert from meco holsters. He said my holster was shipped nov. 16, so I should get it tomorrow or Friday. I sent a check on oct.16, so it will be just over a month from order to delivery. Great service!!    Thank you Robert. Wonderful dealing with you.    Gene Birdwell
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