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Offline kjtrains

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #165 on: November 03, 2009, 10:01:00 AM »
John.  Hopefully, you'll have that Rafter holster very soon.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #166 on: November 04, 2009, 02:49:39 PM »
John,

 So, did Rafter S ship you holster and belt?
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #167 on: November 04, 2009, 07:14:23 PM »
After they said it would ship today, I thought I would call tommrow and see if it is on the way.
John
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #168 on: November 04, 2009, 10:38:38 PM »
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Call Robert! (210) 626-2370
What are you looking for? He makes some of the best I've seen.
http://mecopocketholsters.com/
this is my favorite he made for my seecamp:

He also makes IWBs too:

There are many more pics on his site! Check him out. He rarely has instock/on hand because he makes each custom for the order; and has about an 8 week waiting list (last I heard).  

MrsFosforos, thanks for the great pics, I have one of Roberts pocket holsters, but wanted a holster in Ostrich, and liked the style of the Kentucky by Graham. I tried to buy the Ron Graham Kentucky that clydep7 was selling but got beat out by another buyer :( .
  It seems there is no way to contact Ron Graham, does any one know if he is still doing holsters?
John
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #169 on: November 05, 2009, 05:00:55 PM »
I just called Rafter S and the person I spoke with said the holster and belt have shipped.  ;D  But he said that Della was not there so he didn't have a tracking #  ::) I  think I may call back tommrow and talk to Della and confirm the shipping info.
John
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #170 on: November 05, 2009, 06:14:01 PM »
John.  Very good news.  
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #171 on: November 05, 2009, 07:42:38 PM »
I am unconvinced until it happens. They have yet to give me the courtesy of a response to my multiple attempts to find the status of my order, paid in full in July.

 Comments made on this forum, (up or down), ought reflect real events with rightful cause. This forum is a good opportunity for a maker to grow their business. It is also a domain in which disapprobation may be aimed at a maker who regards "customer service" as a myth.

Good luck to John; I want my money back.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #172 on: November 05, 2009, 09:44:44 PM »


Fortunately, disapprobatees have been in the small minority on this forum. We have been blessed with some master craftsmen whose products have truly enhanced our experience with this unique weapon.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #173 on: November 06, 2009, 03:51:34 PM »
Now you tell me.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #174 on: November 06, 2009, 09:05:00 PM »
Well I called several times today but the phone was never answered, so I don't know any more than I did yesterday.
  Maybe it will show up tommrow or the first of the week or never  :o
John
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #175 on: November 06, 2009, 09:35:19 PM »
John,

I cannot console you anymore than I can myself. Frankly, I think your fate is worse than mine because you are slightly ahead of me in the pipeline and you have spoken to them repeatedly, whereas they have never responded to my emails nor phone messages.

to tracker's point, there are good makers out there; Rafter S is clearly not one of them.

My intention is a pyrrhic victory in which I intend to report them to the Better Business Bureau in their location in Missouri. I have a strong belief that I will not be alone.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #176 on: November 06, 2009, 10:05:52 PM »
I don't know if I will contact the BBB but I am a member on
26 gun forums and will post what happened on every forum I'm on.
  AR15 forum has over 168 thousand active members and the Sig forum has over 50 thousand and that only two out of the 26. It may end up being a hard lesson learned for everyone.
  But I hope it doesn't come to that.
John
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #177 on: November 07, 2009, 02:31:24 PM »
John

You the man! I am active on this forum only but the numbers of which you speak are huge.

No rational person enjoys gratuitous criticism of a maker but Rafter S has distinguished themselves as worthy of rebuke.

Warning our brothers in arms is secondary to our original intent which was to acquire what appeared to be a really cool holster.

It is very sad that we "get our money's worth" by trashing a maker, instead of praising them. However, you are only as good as your customer service. Rafter S holster photos are great! Actually getting one? Uhhhhhh.....
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« Reply #178 on: November 09, 2009, 10:49:37 AM »
Miraculous Moment: I received my Rafter S holster today. When I cancelled the order several weeks ago, I did consider the possibility that maker would ship the product instead of refund.

For those of you considering Rafter S holster, be prepared to wait a long time and deal with a customer service posture that is charitably described as "poor".

However, if you don't mind the wait and poor service, they do make a great product. This is as fair minded as I can get, given my experience as related above.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #179 on: November 09, 2009, 11:37:42 AM »
Great, that you received the holster, ACP.  The Rafter S website does show they do excellent work.  They do need to put something about order shipment on their site.
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