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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #150 on: October 30, 2009, 08:58:20 AM »
Excellent point made as to Rafter S killing goodwill. They are what they are; gifted makers, (according to Irish Guard), who squander opportunity.

I have yet to receive a single response from them, despite yankee's having spoken to them on my behalf. So, they must know that they have unhappy people in their pipeline.

I cancelled, as referenced above, and have not received my refund. This is my Corbon moment.

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #151 on: October 30, 2009, 09:37:54 AM »
 If you used a credit card you can get your money back from the card company for non delivery of goods. (Depending on your credit card)
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #152 on: October 30, 2009, 01:02:42 PM »
I am debt free and do not own a credit card. Further, my debit card was taken for $2700.00 of identity theft so I seldom use it.

I paid by check in July. I have enough clout with the bank and negotiating skills to know that my "termination for cause" (non-performance) is reasonable grounds to reverse an electronic event, had I used a credit card.

If Rafter S does not refund in the next week or so, I will contact my bank and go the route of attempting to reverse funds from the check I sent over 3 months ago.

Not sure of the outcome but it cannot hurt to try.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #153 on: October 30, 2009, 01:23:10 PM »

It seems that you would have a better chance with the refund request. I can't see a scintilla of a chance reversing a check cashed 3 months ago but like you said it is worth an inquiry.

Even though you don't use credit I have found American Express to be most effective in addressing non-performance on a charge. They just simply reverse the charge and put the onus on the merchant to prove performance.

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #154 on: October 30, 2009, 01:55:40 PM »
I am not a fan of American Express as I locked horns with them years ago over a balance dispute.

The number one thing I have going for me is clout with my bank. I have reversed transactions before due to circumstances not unlike rafter s.

When that $2700.00 of id theft occured about a year and a half ago I had money restored in a week. (I also had great fun with the merchants who accepted my stolen identity. They could not/would not identify third party "drop- to" location for reasons of Security!)

To your point, reversing a check will be more difficult. My bank just underwent a merger and I am having difficulty with routine matters, much less trying the impossible.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #155 on: October 30, 2009, 02:27:36 PM »
 A few years ago someone hijacked my personal info and had a driver's license made with their photo on it. They promptly opened a charge account in my name and charged $1700 in men's clothing on the card. I notified Foley's fraud department and after verifying my info they promptly dropped the charges.

Today, I have arranged through the credit agencies that if anyone attempts to open credit in my name the agency must call my home phone no. to verify the validity of it. Anyone can do this to protect themselves from fraud of this kind.

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #156 on: October 30, 2009, 02:30:24 PM »
In todays world it stinks that one has to be so diligent in protecting thier azz!

I ususally change all bank cards and logons once a year just to maintain some sort of OPSEC.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #157 on: October 30, 2009, 03:58:11 PM »
I made my payment through Pay-pal and will have to file a dispute, if and when it comes to that.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #158 on: October 30, 2009, 04:21:45 PM »
Paypal is what lead to the $2700 identity theft. I was purchasing something which mandated its useage. Paypal is the only time in my life that I trusted the internet with my debit card and I don't have to tell anyone on this forum about the prevalence of id theft.

I am convinced that some merchants are in on the deal with identity theft as they want the sale more than they care about the legitimacy of the transaction.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #159 on: October 31, 2009, 12:21:31 PM »
I'm sure there are merchants that have fallen on hard times and the temptation to sell some credit card slips overtakes them.
But there are probably more who throw things in the trash that should go in a shredder, and expose information to dumpster divers looking for credit card info.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #160 on: October 31, 2009, 02:06:17 PM »
When I received my debit card statement it included the 800 numbers of the merchants who had illicitely accepted my card for third party drop shipment. Although my bank took care of me, I could not leave well enough alone and called the merchants. (Half of the $2700 id theft took place in Europe so I left them alone).

When I spoke to the merchants they tried to act like they were the victim and I slamed them. Had their own identity theft protocols worked, they would not have accepted transactions with third party location deliveries.
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #161 on: November 02, 2009, 10:19:37 PM »
I spoke with Rafter S this afternoon and was told the belt is finished and belt and holster should ship tommrow ::) at this point in time I guess I'll believe it when I see them here.
John
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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #162 on: November 02, 2009, 10:22:13 PM »
GOOD LUCK!!

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #163 on: November 02, 2009, 10:53:44 PM »
Corey, thanks. I tried to contact Ron Graham about ordering a pocket holster and both the e-mail address do not work, I get a message saying the e-mail is not able to be delivered  :(
 What does a guy have to do to get a darn holster  >:(

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Re: Pup off to be groomed
« Reply #164 on: November 03, 2009, 12:28:28 AM »
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What does a guy have to do to get a darn holster  >:(

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