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Offline Richard S

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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #15 on: July 09, 2008, 11:35:12 AM »
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What Dan said! If the R380s are now coming down the line, I would think that one of them would be a splendid choice. Those who have shot it report the felt recoil to be practically nonexistent.
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #16 on: July 09, 2008, 12:20:13 PM »
not a bad idea.  Tom
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #17 on: July 09, 2008, 04:00:33 PM »
I think the .380 would be a good choice for Jody to shoot, but that round has never made me feel warm and fuzzy.
It's the bottom of the barrel in a personal defense round, IMPO.
The 38 special would work with some HP +P.
What do you guys think about your wives or GF's carrying a .380 round for personal defense?

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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #18 on: July 09, 2008, 07:27:11 PM »
should work, just ask all the seecamp owners.  Tom
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #19 on: July 09, 2008, 07:40:15 PM »
Her Honor carries this LWS32:


Of course, if her bailiffs are not around, I'm never very far away -- and I tend to be a little more heavily armed.   8)
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #20 on: July 09, 2008, 08:12:49 PM »
The thing is -- any of them should be easier for her to shoot with practice. The key is she needs to get one she feels comfortable with and will carry.

Of all the guns I've shot, the Seecamp .32 was the LEAST PLEASANT in the beginning.  It takes a LOT of getting used to. The first time out at the range with it, I was convinced I'd spent a lot of money on a gun I was going to sock away in the safe.

I perservered and gave it another try and that gun and I finally clicked. BUT with that said; I wouldn't start her on a gun like that.  SMALLER IS easier to conceal but it packs a painful punch. I wouldn't have carried it for protection when I first bought it because I was afraid of the pain it inflicted on ME!! Turns out, it's been the one I carry the most -- after all!

I have a Rohrbaugh on order, so that might change soon!!

My favorite to shoot is a Colt Defender. It does have a good amount of recoil but the weight of the gun helps absorb some of that impact. At first, I developed a problem with anticipating the recoil and developed a flinch. With a lot of dry firing practice and training with laser grips, I got rid of the flinch. I joke that shooting the Seecamp cured my flinch with the Colt. That little devil (the Seecamp) really does kick like a mule. After shooting it, I think anything feels better and is easier to shoot! I would probably carry the Colt as a primary EDC, but it's just not as easy to conceal (especially now that it's summer time).

I have a Bersa .380 and it's not a difficult gun to shoot, but it does has a very snappy recoil. It's lighter weight too, so the recoil is more significant. It was my first handgun and I got a lot of practice with failure drills on it. I limp wristed in the beginning and had a lot of FTF... It was a good starter gun for me and was easy to learn how to shoot with. I know a lot of people who carry one as a primary concealed carry weapon. They are reliable out of the box.  My husband has the CC version which is a little smaller and easier to conceal.

I've shot a S&W 642 and I was very pleasantly surprised that the recoil was so manageable. I thought with such a short barrel and light weight it would be harsh; but I could easily endorse it.

The easiest guns I've shot are a Glock 19 (9mm) and a Glock 30 (.45). They are balanced and recoil is very manageable. Another nice one is a Springfield 1911 - but they are all too big and not so easy to conceal.

I don't know if any of that helps, but it's a "woman's perspective".

The best advice I can offer YOU is --> just get used to the idea that guns are like shoes and she's probably going to end up with more than one!

« Last Edit: July 09, 2008, 08:23:37 PM by MrsFosforos »

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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #21 on: July 09, 2008, 11:32:53 PM »
Nice post/perspective......I was waiting for you to chime in :)

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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #22 on: July 10, 2008, 01:11:25 AM »
Thanks MrsFosforos,
I'll have Jody read your post.
I was thinking of renting a Glock 19 for her to shoot so she can see what a differance it can be.
She has only shot a .380 Kel tec, R9 & Glock 27(40S&W).
So she has been shooting some tough little guns.
When she shoots the R9 she has to swear at it first. LOL

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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #23 on: July 10, 2008, 07:54:57 AM »
Excellent post, MrsFosforos!
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #24 on: July 10, 2008, 12:23:23 PM »
we need to listen to the ladies.  Tom
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #25 on: July 10, 2008, 06:52:59 PM »
Checked with R-Bros and the 380 will be the same price as R-9.  All models will be available.  Mrsfosforos,  Great perspective and Since I haven't already done so. Welcome to the Forum. Dan
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #26 on: November 22, 2008, 12:29:13 AM »
This question drives me nuts, a mico 9mm is not the right gun for a new shooter and I would say the same thing about an S&W 642 or 442. These are all good guns I’m not trying to bash them but they are among the hardest handgun to shoot and are not a good place to start. If she wants a gun to carry and shoot I would steer her towards a glock 19 it’s small enough to carry but is still an easy gun to control. She can get her whole hand on it and the ammo is controllable and cheap (nothing is as cheap as 9mm). If she has to have a revolver then look at an S&W 19. You can find them for around $200, its accurate, and an easy gun to control (steel frame = easy recoil remember NEW SHOOTER). This is like putting you’re 16 year old daughter in a top fuel dragster it’s not a good place to start. I can make 25yd a zone head shots with my keltec 380 (most of the time) but I would not tell a new shooter to get that gun, it is a tough gun to shoot. There is no sight radius and not much gun to hold on to. First teach her how to shoot with a gun that is fun to shoot (that will keep her wanting to shoot). Then when she gets better then start looking at the race cars.    

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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #27 on: November 22, 2008, 12:08:05 PM »
the .32H&R Mag round is very similar to the .38 special in performance, and with 6 rounds. It has very little recoil and can shoot both the .32 short and .32 long rounds for practice with out recoil.   Much like the .327 Ruger round.   Tom
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #28 on: November 27, 2008, 01:35:48 AM »
My two cents, start with a revolver.

If that is fun then maybe move to a semi auto, and go through the drill, if she has hand strength, of cycling.

Pay attention to the designer of the fine pistol that founded this forum. The R9 was designed by Karl for professionals.  This is not a little old lady purse gun.  It is a very specifically engineered precision tool for a job.

It maybe perfect for Jody, but it should be the end point, not the beginner.
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Re: Jody's First Gun??? What Do You Guys Think?
« Reply #29 on: November 27, 2008, 11:31:18 AM »
the R380 is the same price as the R9. Working on mags....  Tom
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