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Offline Captain38

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My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« on: June 10, 2008, 11:28:00 PM »
I have to admit I've never been very recoil sensitive, but I was surprised how mildly my R9s recoiled using 115 gr. FMJ rounds.  I'd have to say it was no worse than standard pressure .38 Specials fired from an Airweight J-frame revolver.

Definitely manageable!

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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #1 on: June 11, 2008, 12:24:26 PM »
good report, see soft recoil, well as least manageable.  Tom
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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #2 on: June 11, 2008, 10:35:28 PM »
I wouldn't agree on the recoil. The damn gun wants to jump out of my hand.  :o
My Glock 27 with 180g shoots smoother than the R9.
The Glock 27 is just too big to carry comfortably here in sunny S. Fla.
I'd rather have the bigger 9mm than a .380. I'll just hold on tight. LOL  :)

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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #3 on: June 15, 2008, 02:40:34 PM »
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it was no worse than standard pressure .38 Specials fired from an Airweight J-frame revolver.
I would say that is an accurate statement. Being an autoloader, I would have hoped that it would recoil less. Thus, I'm really looking forward to the .380 models -- a hit with a .380 will do more damage than a miss with a 9mm.

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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #4 on: June 17, 2008, 10:31:26 PM »
New to Rohrbaugh R9 as they are like finding hen's teeth in California, but wanted to chime in on this thread.

The type of small guns I have shot are Seecamp 32 ACP, 38 special S&W 340 PD scamdiuam frame and a Kahr PM9 9MM.

The Rohrbaugh's recoil IMHO was less than any of the above, the S&W being the worse, Seecamp next and the Karh not too bad compared to the R9.

20 Rounds in the 340PD and that was enough for one day.

First time out with the R9 was yesterday.  Great pistol!
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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2008, 11:37:42 AM »
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The type of small guns I have shot are Seecamp 32 ACP, 38 special S&W 340 PD scamdiuam frame and a Kahr PM9 9MM.

The Rohrbaugh's recoil IMHO was less than any of the above, the S&W being the worse, Seecamp next and the Karh not too bad compared to the R9.

Are you serious? The recoil with the R9 is not terrible by any means but  it's definitely far greater than the LWS32.


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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #6 on: June 18, 2008, 12:00:37 PM »
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Are you serious? The recoil with the R9 is not terrible by any means but  it's definitely far greater than the LWS32.


But not near as snappy as a .380 Seecamp. ;)
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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #7 on: June 18, 2008, 12:36:08 PM »
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But not near as snappy as a .380 Seecamp. ;)
That's what I've heard. Never shot the LWS380

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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #8 on: June 18, 2008, 08:37:09 PM »
My Seecamp trigger guard digs into my finger after a few magazines.  I would take the R9 over the Seecamp for control and comfort in shooting.

I shot 50 rounds yesterday on my R9 and would never blast out 50 with the Seecamp in one sitting.
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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2008, 10:32:52 PM »
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New to Rohrbaugh R9 as they are like finding hen's teeth in California, but wanted to chime in on this thread.

The type of small guns I have shot are Seecamp 32 ACP, 38 special S&W 340 PD scamdiuam frame and a Kahr PM9 9MM.

The Rohrbaugh's recoil IMHO was less than any of the above, the S&W being the worse, Seecamp next and the Karh not too bad compared to the R9.

20 Rounds in the 340PD and that was enough for one day.

First time out with the R9 was yesterday.  Great pistol!

I've never had the opprotunity to shoot the R9 but I have shot the Kahr PM9.  In your opinion, is the recoil of the R9 less than that of the PM9?

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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2008, 05:38:23 PM »
Just as a point of reference, Recoil Factor:

Add Velocity to Bullet Weight and multiply that number by the Velocity. Then divide that answer by the weight, in pounds, of the firearm multiplied by 80. Then divide that number by 100.

For example, my S & W 500 PC Hunter, 10 ½ inch barrel, with Cor-Bon 350gr JHP moving at 1600fps would be, using the listed weight of 82oz [5.13 lbs] equal to a Recoil factor is 76.10.  Muzzle energy is 1990 foot pounds.

My Seecamp .32, with Winchester .32 60gr Silvertip Hollow Point moving at 970fps, using the listed weight, with magazine, of 13.65 oz [.85 lbs] is equal to a Recoil Factor of 146.39.  Muzzle energy is 125 foot pounds.

While my Seecamp .380, with Winchester .380 85gr Silvertip Hollow Point moving at 1000fps, using the listed weight, with magazine, of 13.65oz [.85 lbs] is equal to a Recoil Factor of 158.97.  Muzzle energy is 189 foot pounds.

And my Kel-Tec P-3AT, with Winchester .380 85gr Silvertip Hollow Point moving at 1000 fps, using the listed weight, with magazine, of 11.10oz [.69 lbs] is equal to a Recoil Factor of 195.50. Muzzle energy is 189 foot pounds.

And now for my Rohrbaugh R9s, with Winchester 9mm 115gr Silvertip Hollow Point moving at 1225 fps, using the listed weight, with magazine, of 14.3oz [.89 lbs] is equal to a Recoil Factor of 230.55.  Muzzle energy is 383 foot pounds.

And least we forget my S & W 360PD, with Cor-Bon .357 140gr JHP moving at 1500fps would be, using the listed weight of 12oz [.75 lbs] equal to a Recoil Factor of 312!  Muzzle energy is 525 foot pounds.

Many folks consider a Recoil Factor over 100 to be unpleasant; certainly anything over 200 is very unpleasant. 312?, well there you have it folks, painful. You pays your money and takes your chances. Double tap? Sure, but you have to practice!

I have the 360PD, and like it.  I would not trade it off, but it is not a pleasant gun.  It has a job and it does it REAL well.  If it is not for you there are a lot of milder shooting guns out there.  Just a warning, this is not a 9mm target pistol.  It is an honest to God concealed weapon designed to take a .357 Mag and protect a person.  If you can deal with that it may be right up your alley, but don’t try to fool yourself into feeling Macho!  It is not about that.  
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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2008, 07:08:22 PM »
 PapaT   I had a PM9 and it's recoil wasn't that bad especially after I compared it to the PM40 I replaced it with. The R9 is a LITTLE bit jumpier than the PM9 but nothing really to be concerned about. The PM40 was much snappier to shoot than the R9 though. The only thing about the R9 is the mag release is a little more uncomfortable to me when shooting over the PM9... but then again neither were designed to be big range guns.

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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #12 on: October 14, 2008, 12:00:01 AM »
with all the talk on this forum i thought the R9 would jump out of my hand and smack me in the forehead but after the 1st shot i eased my death grip on it went to unsupported and emptied the mag. I dont really see why all these people say it wants to jump out of theyre hands i just dont see it    ???

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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #13 on: October 14, 2008, 01:08:17 AM »
As you can see by my calculations the R9 is actually quite managable by most standards.  It is NOT a target pistol.  It is a tool, and one of the best.
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with all the talk on this forum i thought the R9 would jump out of my hand and smack me in the forehead but after the 1st shot i eased my death grip on it went to unsupported and emptied the mag. I dont really see why all these people say it wants to jump out of theyre hands i just dont see it    ???
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Re: My R9s and Perceived Recoil
« Reply #14 on: October 14, 2008, 05:24:56 PM »
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 It is NOT a target pistol.  It is a tool, and one of the best.

My R9 shoots like a target pistol
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