Hardware questions

[Click177]

With many thanks to the members of this forum, I am very close to making a decision on buying an R9s. I have a few questions that remain unanswered after much searching:

1- What trigger pull (lb, oz) should I expect?
2- Are these locked breech?
3- One search revealed that they are locked breech and blow back. What should I make of that?
4- Are the current R9's shipping with G-10 grips?
5- Are G-10 grips carbon fiber?
6- Pardon my ignorance, but how do you load one in the chamber when there is no slide lock?
7- Do we just leave the "s" off of R9s now? Should I just refer to it as an R9?
8- What is "pup"? A cute nickname? An acronym for something?

-Click

[jerseyboy]

Ahhh, Lad, you need to do a little background reading yourself to best understand what you ask.

[Click177]

I assume that means you don't have the answers I am looking for either. :-/
I've done a tremendous amount of research and reading, and these are the remaining questions I had. I did learn that it is locked breech since my posting, but all other questions remain.
-Click

[Jack Foulard]

Current production R9 or R9s comes with G10 grips. They are not carbon fiber they are G10.  They have a better tactile grip than smooth CF.

The R9s is the R9 with sights.  The R9 is without sights.  It seems both are available but getting an R9 without sights might require a wait.  Juat get it with the sights.

To load a rounf in the chamber you can put 1 round in a mag, insert and then rack the slide.  Now you have one in the pipe.  Now pull out mag and load to full capacity.  Or put a loaded mag first and strip one off and leave it like that or pull the mag out and add 1 extra round to have full capacity.

Look at the rorhbaugh firearms website for photos of the various models available.

Good luck.

[tracker]

These are locked breech.
G-10 is a micarta laminate that is paper, cotton, and glass
  fabrics impregnated with synthetic resin. Heat and pressure
  transfers this into a solid industrial plastic laminate or
  composite. There are no more CF grips being shipped for
  the time being.
Pup is a cute name that has stuck. There are several thread
   comments on this moniker that has taken on a term of
   endearment, so to speak.
Trigger pull, I think I recall, is about 8 pounds. Some seem to
   lighten a bit with use [mine did] but others have said they
   remain constant.

[ccoorreeyy]

I have two R9's.  One trigger breaks at 7 lbs even and the other breaks at 7 1/4 lbs.  Hope this helps.
Corey

[Click177]

Jack, thanks for the answers concerning the G-10 grips and loading 6+1.

tracker, thank you for expounding on the G-10 grips. That information is helpful. Thanks for the explanation on "pup" and the report on trigger pull.

Corey, thank you for the trigger pull data. Sounds like a sweet but safe resistance.
-Click

[Jack Foulard]

Click-

This site is wonderful for gathering information.  I spent days reading all the pages under the various forums gathering all kinds of good info.

Which model are you leaning towards?

[Click177]

I agree, this forum is rich with information! I am leaning toward the R9s (the basic Rolls Royce without the options )
-Click

[ccoorreeyy]

Click, theres nothing wrong with plain Jane when Jane is a hottie!  I carry the basic R9s, if you can call it basic.  I did end up adding some of the Rohrbaugh alum. grips which added a nice custom looking touch.My other R9s is a very early model that I just love. Corey

[Click177]

Corey, what a handsome family! Or would that be a "cute litter"?
-Click

[Richard S]

With many thanks to the members of this forum, I am very close to making a decision on buying an R9s. I have a few questions that remain unanswered after much searching:

1- What trigger pull (lb, oz) should I expect?
2- Are these locked breech?
3- One search revealed that they are locked breech and blow back. What should I make of that?
4- Are the current R9's shipping with G-10 grips?
5- Are G-10 grips carbon fiber?
6- Pardon my ignorance, but how do you load one in the chamber when there is no slide lock?
7- Do we just leave the "s" off of R9s now? Should I just refer to it as an R9?
8- What is "pup"? A cute nickname? An acronym for something?

-Click

Click:

First of all, welcome to the Forum.

I just returned to home base from the weekend and will attempt to answer your questions from my own perspective:

1.  The trigger pull of my R9 is right at 8 pounds.

2.  The action of the R9 is semi-automatic locked breach.

3.  Id.  

4.  As I understand it, G10 grips are now standard issue for the R9, aluminum grips being available on special order.

5.  What Tracker said.  G10 is not carbon fiber. It is produced by impregnating glass woven fabric impregnated with an epoxy resin binder while forming the sheet under high pressure. Other names for G10 are Micarta and Garolite.

6.  To chamber a round, just insert a loaded magazine and rack the slide. No slide lock is necessary for the function.

7.  When the Rohrbaugh 9mm semi-automatic pistol was first introduced, "R9s" was used to designate the model with sights milled into the slide while "R9" was used to designate the model without sights. Only a limited number of Rohrbaughs were manufactured without sights. In any event, due to regulatory considerations, the pistol is now simply designated as the "R9."

8.  The term "pup" was first coined by Chris ("R9SCarry"), the creator of the R9 FAQ Sheet. The term stuck. Since Chris is one of those who considers the .44 Magnum to be a "modest" caliber, I assume he was using the term "pup" to compare the R9 with some affection to one of his really "big dogs."   In any event, here is a link to Chris' FAQ Sheet. You will find that it contains a wealth of information on what I believe to be the finest pocket pistol yet produced:

http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/rohrbaugh/

[Click177]

Richard, thank you for the thorough reply to my questions.
Concerning ID for my question #3:
[Quote: Blackhawk, May 22nd, 2003, 10:54 AM
alamo quoted Eric Rohrbaugh: The R-9 is a locked breach delayed blowback design. I'm surprised he said that, since the two designs are typically mutually exclusive. From what I've seen, the R-9 is a locked breech design with no blowback to it.]
Copied from:
http://www.thehighroad.org/archive/index.php/t-21874.html
My question is trivial, just trying to understand.

Wow, Chris' FAQ is a great resource and fine complement to the Rohrbaugh Forum!

Thanks again for your reply.
-Click

[riffraff]

Click,

You are correct.  The R9 is NOT a true locked breach gun.  It has attributes of a locked breach and a blow back.

Check the barrel and slide.  Where does the barrel lock with the slide?  There is not much of a lock, some but not much.  Keep in mind that the R9 has a long freebore to help reduce pressure.  I have no problem with this design at all.  We are talking a 9mm and not a 380 after all.

I don't want to cause a ruckus but I believe that information should be as factual as possible.  I don't think I am splitting hairs either.

I love my R9's,  Mike

[tracker]

Maybe we should educate the Rohrbaughs since their manual
calls it a locked breach.