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Offline harrydog

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For those who have had problems...
« on: January 27, 2006, 06:48:07 PM »
I know there are a few people, a VERY small percentage of forum members, who have had functioning problems (mostly FTF) with their guns. Unfortunately I'm one of those people.  I sent my R9 back to the factory at Karl's recommendation so they could take a look at. It will ship back to me on Monday, exactly one week after I shipped it off them. That's a very quick turn around. I don't think there is anyone who can say anything negative about Rohrbaugh's customer service.

My question is, how many of the people with problems have had them resolved? I know of one person who couldn't get things to work after several trips back to the factory so he gave up on the gun but I'm not sure where the others stand.
I'm wondering what the likelyhood is of getting the gun to work reliably for those individuals who have experienced problems.
I'm really, really hoping that whatever was done to my gun will solve the problem because I love this gun and want to keep it.

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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #1 on: January 27, 2006, 06:58:43 PM »
I hope that you get some feedback on this..

Sometimes all we hear and see are the "problems" and then we never know what the results are later!! ;)

I am sure the Bros R will take care of your problems and that you will continue to rely on the pup for your needs.. ;D

Wishing you well in getting the pup back and enjoying it for the fine piece of craftsmanship it is.. 8)

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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #2 on: January 27, 2006, 09:50:31 PM »
Here is a thought....
I was talking to my friend, and fellow R9 owner. He had one failure to feed when his R9 was new.
 The other day, he took it all apart to clean it.
 He diassembled the magazine, paying attention to the orientation of the mag spring. reassembled, took the other mag apart, and the spring was inverted.
 Now he doesn't know what the proper orientation of the magazine spring is.
 Could this be a problem with some of the malfunctions we see?

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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #3 on: January 28, 2006, 12:54:08 AM »
That is interesting Art.  I have never taken a mag apart.  This link to Chris's site shows a mag apart.

http://www.acbsystems.com/boards/rohrbaugh/basefile/r9-detail-pics.htm

Looking at it you would not think it would make a difference on what end went in the mag first but maybe it does make a big difference.  

Maybe Chris will weigh in on this.

It would be interesting to have those who had a problem and sent the R9 back state if the problem was resolved.  There is still the unkown in the equation,  The brothers have stated that some people have a problem with the gun - whether it is their hand shape or whatever.

Harry -- hope your returned R9 is ok for you.
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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #4 on: January 28, 2006, 01:54:04 AM »
True enough - it does seem we have missed out on one or two follow-up reports.  Guns that had troubles seemingly and went back.  Harry - I do also sure hope your returned Pup will be well behaved.

I'd like to think that all that was wrong was righted with returned guns - if in fact the guns had faults themselves.

Re the springs in mags - to scarfe my pic from the site! - yes I do believe improper fitting of spring could prejudice function.  Notice how the spring in the correct position will exert a force to assist follower to stay tipped up at front.  Put spring in 180º about and I suspect the presentation of a fresh round could be impaired - may not take much but if that round is not exactly ''mated'' with feedlips for angle, well - not as ideal maybe.  Certainly reliability could be prejudiced I think.

Look at it another way - if spring force on follower is not normal to axis of mag body - then we could see an increase in friction, between follower and inner walls - not much perhaps but possibly enough to reduce feed pressure.

Hmmm - pic not showing yet - wonder why!


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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #5 on: January 28, 2006, 01:35:53 PM »
Thanks guys, that picture, and the link above will help out a lot. I will forward this to Dave, and he will correct his mag spring.
 I do have to say, he did not tell me in what manner the springs differed, just that the two were disimilar.

Thanks again

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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #6 on: January 28, 2006, 01:41:01 PM »
I also hope those with past problems will share with us what happened in the end. I suspect that everything is running fine or we would all know.
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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #7 on: January 28, 2006, 07:59:03 PM »
Hi Harrydog,  I can attest to getting my pup  fixed..
I had some problems with misfeeds and sent it in and Karl replaced the slide and I put about 200 rounds thru the little fella and it worked like a charm with no problems.
I hope you get yours back and find it is working for you ok.

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For those who have had problems...
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2006, 01:56:39 AM »
>>HarryDog...

I have two R9s and developed FTF in both.  I sent them back to Karl...he returned them in a week and both have been 100% ever since...!!...TW<<

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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2006, 08:04:47 AM »
That's good to hear and makes me all the more hopeful that mine will be 100% as well.
TW - Did Karl tell you what was done to your guns?
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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2006, 09:36:14 AM »
TW, thats sounds great, it is nice to know that Karl and company have taken care of the problems and your pups are running fine.
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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2006, 11:46:01 PM »
I'm also pleased to learn the guns were returned in fine condition.

It sure is good to know we will be well cared for.

I hope everybody will continue to describe their experiences after receiving the pistol back from factory service.

Bill

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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2006, 09:24:26 AM »
Well, mostly good news.
I got to the range yesterday and ran 40 rounds of 124gr Gold Dots through the gun. No problems except for one FTF when I purposely limp-wristed the first round out of a magazine. This was after I had already fired about 30 rounds. The round didn't lodge nose up against the top of the chamber like all of my previous FTFs but rather the nose of the bullet got stuck on the feed ramp. A tap on the rear of the slide chambered the round.
So, I consider this to be a positive sign that any problems my gun may have had were resolved. I don't know what Karl did to the gun. Maria said she would ask them to put a note in with my gun explaining what was done but that didn't happen.
I'm thinking maybe I will polish the feed ramp. Although it looks fairly smooth, I know it could be smoother. I have a dremel but I'd rather do it by hand to minimize the possibility of messing it up. Can I use Flitz for this or do I need something else? Any tips?

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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2006, 10:17:59 AM »
Harry, at this point, if I were you, I would not doctor the gun myself as it is still under factory observation, so to speak. I think you should keep shooting it and see what develops if anything. ;)
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Re: For those who have had problems...
« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2006, 01:43:08 PM »
Harry - if you really did want to slick up the feed ramp - and I'd tend to leave things alone ideally - but a Dremel is OK I reckon - with a small felt mop wheel and some Simichrome lightly smeared on.  

It will help produce a mirror shine and cannot IMO prejudice anything.  I do tho think that unless a feed ramp is obviously and literally rough - then the useful effect is pretty miniscule.
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