Rohrbaugh being debated on the Seecamp board

[Fud]

There's a pretty intense debate regarding the pro's & con's of the R9 over at the Seecamp Board and it up to 8 pages already. Normally I wouldn't post a link to another board because that can be viewed as spamming by both boards but I've seen links posts here to TFL debates regarding the R9 and over at the Seecamp forum, Seecamp, himself, seems to be in favor of the dicussion so I figure that this time it would be alright to post a link to the discussion.

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Correction: make that 9 pages and counting  

[R9SCarry]

Thx for heads up Alan - I wonder how many more pages it might run!!

[MountainMan]

Hi Chris and Alan

I guess it is as common to have a Rohrbaugh thread on a Seecamp forum as the opposite, as it is here.  I decided not to agressively engage those (two) on the Seecamp forum who have a main agenda to put-down the R9.  It just makes them worse.  You could give them all of the logic in the world and it would not make a difference.  Their minds are made up before hand - or they are just unhappy people.
Dave

[R9SCarry]

Some folks don't operate on logic Dave - look at the anti gun brigade!!

Indeed no point in wasting valuable energies in some cases - in fact on occasions, I have found folks can dig a deep hole in the end - and bury themselves!

Whatever - ain't pleasin' everyone, ever

[jarcher]

Hm, I have been toying with the idea of getting a Seecamp .32 or .380 for a while.  I have read good and bad about them, but I'm thinking they probably are just fine.  I see a bunch of the .32 around at prices that vary from about $325 to $500+, which is pretty funny.  I am guessing the .380s are still hard to come by...

How does the recoil of a .380 compare to a R9?  I don't mind the R9 recoil although I woulden't shoot it all day!  The Seecamp .380 is a blow back, so I would not be suprised if the recoil was actually stronger.

[harrydog]

From what I've been told, the LWS 380 felt recoil is probably a bit worse than the R9. It was described as sharper and more straight back than the R9, but that may vary with the individual.
The wait time on them from the factory is 1 year or a little more.
I just ordered an LWS 32 which I should get in about a week. If I like it, I may eventually get an LWS 380. I sure would like to shoot one first though.

[Fud]

How does the recoil of a .380 compare to a R9?

Depends on the package that it comes in. A .380 Rohrbaugh would feel like a pussycat compared to a R9.

If I like it, I may eventually get an LWS 380. I sure would like to shoot one first though.

I would like to get a new stainless Seecamp .25 but unfortunately they have been discontinued and from what I've seen, the older models weren't stainless.

[dfsutton]

Very interesting discussion.  I must say that the idea of keyholing does bother me a bit.  It seems like a shame to spend near $1000 on a gun that can't put the bullets on target without tumble, regardless of the size of it.  However, that being said, mine is on order and so I'll get to evaluate this for myself soon.

[R9SCarry]

df - re tumble aspects - I wrote up a page on the FAQ about Tumbling - which includes a perspective given me by Karl.

I can see why it can happen and it is not a flaw in design or fault of the gun per se - it is a possible side effect of a necessary design consideration - and affects things with some ammo.

It does not bother me - if my bullet has yawed a smidgeon over a few feet on the way to making a BG have a very bad day!!  

[Brenden]

It has overall been a good discussion on the Seecamp board,IMO..
Everyone loves a fine piece of craftmanship!!

I have owned a .32 LWS for a LONG time it seems..

Love it, and love my pup!! Just 2 different guns..

Really want the .380 Seecamp though!!

On the keyholing "problem"
I have not noticed any of this with the R9s..
But have on occassion with my .32 LWS-STHPs..

I don't sweat it..

Brenden

[Richard S]

Really want the .380 Seecamp though!!

On the keyholing "problem"
I have not noticed any of this with the R9s..
But have on occassion with my .32 LWS-STHPs..

I don't sweat it..

Brenden

I, too, want a .380 Seecamp.

As to keyholing, given the purpose and useful range of a defensive pocket gun, I don't sweat it either.  A keyholed bullet will just produce a slightly larger entry hole in the BG.  That will be his problem, not mine.

[FB3]

I have been following the thread on the Seecamp forum.  It is quite interesting and pretty objective overall.

As was mentioned previously, I think that folks who like the R9 and Seecamp just like small, quality pistols.  They each have their niche, and they both are very high quality products.  

It is really quite refreshing to follow the dialogue in these forums.  We all have our personal preferences and some difference of opinion always come up, but I really like the civility both here and on the Seecamp site.

[R9SCarry]

I can only guess, more folks have been visiting the FAQ site because of that - hits went up by a staggering 600 or so in last week or so!!!!  

[MurrayNevada]

Is is OK to love Rohrbaughs AND Seecamps?  I sure do.