Gun Tests pans R9s

[FJC]

I'm hearing that Gun Tests magazine did a comparison review of the R9s to the Kahr PM9, and resoundly picks the PM9.  I don't subscribe to Gun Tests, but word on some others boards is that they are claiming the R9 is very finicky with ammo, and was doing a lot of keyholing.

That doesn't match up what I've been hearing from actual owners...anyone who has one already finding it finicky about ammo?  Any keyholing?

[justin2992]

A Pair of Tiny Pocket 9mms: We Pick the PM9 Over the R9s
Kahr’s product was by “fahr” a better carry gun than Rohrbaugh’s R9s, in our estimation.
THR link:
http://www.thehighroad.org/showthread.php?s=ed4f7730e5a5d2f1aeb88898359195c4&threadid=92874&highlight=gun+and+tests


EDITED by DDGATOR:

Sorry, Justin.  I do appreciate the effort, but after consultation with my Intellectual Property counsel, I decided I couldn't let the verbatim text of the article remain here due to copyright concerns.  I don't need the "cease and desist" letter!

ADDED:
No problem Duane.  I was a little hesitant to post it anyway.  No explanation needed.  You are no glocktalk-nazi.

[9mil.mouse]

Yikes! That's not a very good review at all.    Looks like the Rohrbaugh is batting .500 in gun mags so far.    For what it's worth I've never had a keyhole in close to 500 rounds from the Rohrbaugh, and I also don't understand why the test piece only had one magazine, I believe they come with two mags from the factory.

[RJ HEDLEY]

I have never liked Gun Test Magazine, I think they are just one man's opinion..  The idea of them buying all their test items, so as not to be beholden to anyone, is slightly askew. IMHO

[DDGator]

Thanks, Justin.   This will generate a lot of comments.  

The authors seem somewhat uninformed to me... but... I leave it to others to comment.

Why do they say (several times) that the R-9 only comes with 1 magazine?  Did they get ripped off?  

[FJC]

Notice they only seemed to have issues with ammo that they even admit wasn't appropriate for the pistol...and no problems (feeding or with keyholing) with more appropriate ammo like the Gold Dots.

[justin2992]

and I also don't understand why the test piece only had one magazine, I believe they come with two mags from the factory.

Maybe they bought their sample from Long Island Shooting Center:
http://www.gunsamerica.com/guns/976468090.htm

[justin2992]

The gun test weights:
PM9 - 16.4 oz.
R9S - 13.4 oz.

Published weights on mfg. websites:
PM9 - 15.9 oz.
R9S - 14.3 oz.

hmmmmm

[Richard S]

That review is about the most lengthy piece of self-aggrandizing drivel I have read lately.  I have nothing aginst Kahr, which is involved with the manufacture of the NAA Guardians.  (And I have carried Guardians for years.)  But that Gun Test reviewer missed the mark with his article as widely as he apparently did when trying to fire the Rohrbaugh.  

As an old trial lawyer, I wonder what his motive might have been.

As for myself . . . in my seventh decade of life, and having been in harm's way on two continents . . . I testify as follows:  My R9s has never malfunctioned.  It shoots tight groups.  The recoil is entirely manageable, especially after familiarization.  It has digested every type of quality 9mm ammunition I have found to feed it.  I intend to carry it for the rest of my life and leave it to whichever heir has most impressed me at the time I execute the final codicil to my Last Will and Testament.

Further, Deponent sayeth not.

RS

[Richard S]

And by the way, my Rohrabaugh doesn't "keyhole," as was implied by that Gun Test review.  I shall be surprised if any of the other Rphrbaughs do either.

RS

[MurrayNevada]

"We could not reject it outright, we felt, because some of our test shooters liked it slightly more than the Kahr"

Then why did Gun Test prefer the Kahr?  I own both and       in my opinion the Rohrbaugh has a better trigger and is much more reliable (my PM9 needed stronger springs and then made a trip back to Mass and still sometimes needs a little help returning fully to battery).

The article makes it appear that the Rohrbaugh is only slightly easier to pocket carry.  To me there is a huge difference in the size when I have it in my pocket.  I don't know what the measurements are but anyone who has compared both in their pocket has to agree that there is a HUGE difference.  I think the PM9 carries more like my Glock 27.  The Rohrbaugh carries more like my Keltec P3-AT.  

[Richard S]

Murray:

You asked:  "Then why did Gun Test prefer the Kahr?"  

Good question.    

In the immortal words of the late, great George Burns, I should say, "Good night."

RS

[Bandit]

thanks for posting that justin!  now i don't have to sign up for a 14-day free trial period (hee hee)

that writer did bring up one point that i never would have thought of which is not subject to bias.....what about clearing a jam?  those make me nervous whenever they happen on any gun, but on a tightly fitted gun with a strong recoil spring and no slide lock....how do you guys feel about that?

[9mil.mouse]

Justin, thanks very much for posting the article!  

I think it's possible the author for Gun Tests is one of those folks who just prefers the Kahr's trigger to the Rohrbaugh's. There's no denying Kahr triggers feel very different from the Rohrbaugh's trigger, which is more like a very well tuned revolver's long double action.  

[RJ HEDLEY]

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