All I had to go on was their attitude at the show -- Personally, I like the Detonics the best, and plan to go w. them -- None of the 1911 smiths I checked did a good bluing job -- in fairness, Detonics only does stainless -- even if you were willing to pay a premium for it, the examples weren't as good as my Dan wesson revolver, or as my father's Kimber.