MrsFosforos, seeing your husband's Seecamp caiman on the Seecamp forum is what got my holster buying glands all stirred up. It seems that every time I see one of Robert's holsters I go into a feeding frenzy. So I ordered a caiman for my R9. Speaking of seecamp, Robert made a gorgeous shark skin holster for mine. (I gotta put his ph # on my speed dial!) Gene