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Offline ecappler

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Failure to fire
« on: April 11, 2012, 12:38:28 AM »
Over the past 4 weeks I've experienced a problem with my R9.  Pull the trigger and no BANG.  Pull the trigger a second time and it goes BANG.  This is with Remington 147 grain jacketed ammo from different boxes.  Tried different ammo and got the same problem.  At least ONE failure to fire per clip.  Sometimes TWO failure to fire per clip.

Anyone else had this problem? 

Gun will be one year old in June of 2012.  At a price of $1200 I expect more reliability.

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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #1 on: April 11, 2012, 06:38:23 AM »
First of all, here's to the R9's second strike capability! Some pocket pistols don't have that critical feature.

My next thought would be to ask about the appearance of the primers on the casings that required a second strike. I would think that the "usual suspect" would be some fouling in the firing pin assembly blocking the pin's free movement and full extension through the channel following hammer strike.  You might want to try a good cleaning of that area, using a quality solvent and some canned air, followed by a touch of light gun oil. Then dry fire the weapon a few times to clear the channel and see if the problem persists.

Good luck in finding the "gremlin." 
« Last Edit: April 11, 2012, 07:34:49 AM by Richard S »
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #2 on: April 11, 2012, 06:48:33 AM »
Excellent advice Richard.
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #3 on: April 11, 2012, 08:26:08 AM »
I second Richards advice.

Is sounds like an ammo problem not a gun problem.

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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #4 on: April 11, 2012, 09:41:43 AM »
What RS said; excellent advice, for sure!
Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.  Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #5 on: April 11, 2012, 05:39:38 PM »
Isn't it rather unlikely to be an ammo problem if he's tried different ammo and had the same problem?

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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #6 on: April 11, 2012, 05:56:59 PM »
Isn't it rather unlikely to be an ammo problem if he's tried different ammo and had the same problem?

Count.  Here's ecappler's 2nd post; a little clearer; think he's a happy camper now.

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Bought my R9 in June last year.  First 2 months had several problems with failure to eject.  I shoot a lot of ammo through the gun.  If the instructions say replace the recoil spring after 200 rounds I'm going to go to the range and shoot 200 rounds, replace the spring, and then shoot 200 more over the next few weeks.  Sent the gun back because of the FTE problems.  Got it back.  Same problem surfaced the first week I went to the range.  Buddy who is a cop was with me.  Said " let's try other ammo."  Another 30 rounds produced the following conclusion: works great with ammo that's heavier than 115 grains.  My gun FTE if I use ammo that's lighter than 125 grains.  Therefore, I use 147 grain ammo.  Nowhere, on any forum, etc did I find this information anywhere else.

Conclusion: expensive guns require expensive ammo.  Don't have a problem with that as long as they're dependable.

Since I learned the above information, I've carried the R9 every day with heavy ammo and feel confident.  Love the size, accuracy, and feel of the gun.

Love the gun.

More to come...
Let us have faith that right makes might, and in that faith, let us, to the end, dare to do our duty as we understand it.  Abraham Lincoln

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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #7 on: April 12, 2012, 09:36:04 AM »
Isn't it rather unlikely to be an ammo problem if he's tried different ammo and had the same problem?

Count.  Here's ecappler's 2nd post; a little clearer; think he's a happy camper now.

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Bought my R9 in June last year.  First 2 months had several problems with failure to eject.  I shoot a lot of ammo through the gun.  If the instructions say replace the recoil spring after 200 rounds I'm going to go to the range and shoot 200 rounds, replace the spring, and then shoot 200 more over the next few weeks.  Sent the gun back because of the FTE problems.  Got it back.  Same problem surfaced the first week I went to the range.  Buddy who is a cop was with me.  Said " let's try other ammo."  Another 30 rounds produced the following conclusion: works great with ammo that's heavier than 115 grains.  My gun FTE if I use ammo that's lighter than 125 grains.  Therefore, I use 147 grain ammo.  Nowhere, on any forum, etc did I find this information anywhere else.

Conclusion: expensive guns require expensive ammo.  Don't have a problem with that as long as they're dependable.

Since I learned the above information, I've carried the R9 every day with heavy ammo and feel confident.  Love the size, accuracy, and feel of the gun.

Love the gun.

More to come...

Reading the two posts in juxtaposition is interesting. It would appear that ecappler's "love the gun/ more to come" post was actually his first, having been posted April 11, 2012, 12:31:58 AM. The second post came 6 minutes 30 seconds later, being posted April 11, 2012, 12:38:28 AM. From "love the gun/more to come" to "I expect more reliability" in less than 7 minutes might seem a bit inconsistent.

"Break 19, ecappler. Are you out there?"   ???


[Edited typo. ("S" and "X" are too close together on my keyboard.  ;)]
« Last Edit: April 13, 2012, 08:25:08 AM by Richard S »
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Re: Failure to fire
« Reply #8 on: April 12, 2012, 10:00:06 AM »
Isn't it rather unlikely to be an ammo problem if he's tried different ammo and had the same problem?

Count.  Here's ecappler's 2nd post; a little clearer; think he's a happy camper now.

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Bought my R9 in June last year.  First 2 months had several problems with failure to eject.  I shoot a lot of ammo through the gun.  If the instructions say replace the recoil spring after 200 rounds I'm going to go to the range and shoot 200 rounds, replace the spring, and then shoot 200 more over the next few weeks.  Sent the gun back because of the FTE problems.  Got it back.  Same problem surfaced the first week I went to the range.  Buddy who is a cop was with me.  Said " let's try other ammo."  Another 30 rounds produced the following conclusion: works great with ammo that's heavier than 115 grains.  My gun FTE if I use ammo that's lighter than 125 grains.  Therefore, I use 147 grain ammo.  Nowhere, on any forum, etc did I find this information anywhere else.

Conclusion: expensive guns require expensive ammo.  Don't have a problem with that as long as they're dependable.

Since I learned the above information, I've carried the R9 every day with heavy ammo and feel confident.  Love the size, accuracy, and feel of the gun.

Love the gun.

More to come...

Reading the two posts in justaposition is interesting. It would appear that ecappler's "love the gun/ more to come" post was actually his first, having been posted April 11, 2012, 12:31:58 AM. The second post came 6 minutes 40 seconds later, being posted April 11, 2012, 12:38:28 AM. From "love the gun/more to come" to "I expect more reliability" in less than 7 minutes might seem a bit inconsistent.

"Break 19, ecappler. Are you out there?"   ???

Gee Whiz, RS.  That is correct; more confusing; at least to me.  I didn't look at the times and merely looked at the #2 on the total posts; post being the latest post is the #1.  Yep! ecappler, maybe you can chime back in.

Edited to correct spelling.
« Last Edit: April 12, 2012, 03:29:54 PM by kjtrains »
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