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Offline Hitman82

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R9 jams
« on: March 18, 2012, 07:48:19 PM »
Today was my first time shooting my new R9 and I had alot of issues with it. I was shooting Federal 115 grain FMJ. I shot 84 rounds. 6 FTE, 1FTF. 2 of the FTE were the last round. The last 3a FTE were out of the same mag but that is when I started keeping track. I caulked the others up to the breakin process.

Do most of you run the R9 wet? I just used a light coat. Maybe the breakin is a long process but I doubt it as I have not read that before. Also, the takedown pin is wearing the inside of my slide.  Is this normal?

Thanks,
Brian
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Offline yankee2500

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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #1 on: March 18, 2012, 08:14:01 PM »
Brian,
First off did you preform a cleaning and lube before the range session ?
   Never had the takedown pin wear the slide and it can't be considered normal. I do not run my pup wet but it has been to Robar and had the NP3 coating applied.
  I would try a different brand of ammo and also some of the planned carry ammo and see how that goes.
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #2 on: March 18, 2012, 08:42:14 PM »
Hitman

Sorry to hear your range issues.
Try giving it a good cleaning and try some Speeer 115 grain Gold Dots.
Let us know how you make out. Keep us posted!
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #3 on: March 18, 2012, 08:56:00 PM »
The pistol does need to be properly lubricated, although not necessarily "wet."  You cannot "limp wrist" a pistol this small...the recoil must be controlled by the shooter to allow proper function.  I agree that you should try speer gold dots as the most likely ammo to function predictably...some of the R9's are ammo sensitive.  I have noted some wear on the inside of the slide at the takedown pin hole on my Covert, but it has caused no issues and has not gotten worse after the break in period (about 50 rounds or so), and this has been discussed/noted on at least one other thread in the past 6 months.  The first few times you fire it and clean it you will note metal filings from the break in period....these can cause issues at first also...take it down, clean it well, shoot it again.  Mine had a few issues to begin with, but is now my primary carry piece and it seems to work without fail.
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #4 on: March 18, 2012, 08:57:36 PM »
Brian.  Also sorry to hear of the range problems with the R9.  John, Z, and backup have covered the bases pretty much; definitely try the Gold Dots and I think you'll see a difference in the performance.  Good luck!
« Last Edit: March 18, 2012, 09:00:17 PM by kjtrains »
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #5 on: March 18, 2012, 11:17:07 PM »
Quote from: Hitman82 on March 18, 2012, 07:48:19 PM
Today was my first time shooting my new R9 and I had alot of issues with it. I was shooting Federal 115 grain FMJ. I shot 84 rounds. 6 FTE, 1FTF. 2 of the FTE were the last round. The last 3a FTE were out of the same mag but that is when I started keeping track. I caulked the others up to the breakin process.

Do most of you run the R9 wet? I just used a light coat. Maybe the breakin is a long process but I doubt it as I have not read that before. Also, the takedown pin is wearing the inside of my slide.  Is this normal?

Thanks,
Brian
You need a VERY tight  two hand grip ....call it a crush grip to help  get the point across....if you don't have such a grip you may have problems...I have been shooting R9s for eight years....this  has been my personal observation....JMO
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2012, 11:24:03 PM »
Quote from: Jack_F on March 18, 2012, 11:17:07 PM
You need a VERY tight  two hand grip with arms locked in extension....

Interesting observation.

I practice right-hand only, left-hand only, and only a minimum of two hand shooting.  I think I've shot enough of the little DAO pocket pistols that I naturally hang on pretty tight.

My tightest groups are with two hands.  I keep thinking I'm better than that, but the holes punched through the paper do not lie.  Grrr.
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #7 on: March 19, 2012, 08:45:49 AM »
I use the VZ checkered grips and a straight YANKEE2500 grip extension to help improve my grip. Both seem to help out.
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Offline RickP

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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #8 on: March 19, 2012, 10:25:16 AM »
Sorry you are having difficulties. The only thing I can add is to let the pistol cool between mags. Heat can be a problem.
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #9 on: March 19, 2012, 12:48:54 PM »
My r9s elite has the grips with the checkering underneath the rohrbaugh logo and that seems to help a lot,  I've handled them without the checkering and the grips seem slick,  I've never fired the elite so I could be wrong.  However gold dots seem to be mentioned often so it seems to be the most documented round that worksgreat in the pistol.
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #10 on: March 19, 2012, 05:53:36 PM »
I've read on this forum that the R9 favors the 124gr Gold Dots.

I hope you report back.

I know that limp wristing can be a problem for some pistols but there is a difference between limp wristing and iron grip. If a pistol requires a very firm grip and anything less than that causes it to fail to cycle, I wouldn't say that anything less than the required grip is limp wristing.

I think a SD pistol should be capable of being fired one-handed with a "normal" grip, a lot of SD situations might call for exactly that.
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #11 on: March 19, 2012, 06:17:57 PM »

Whatever it takes; range experience will determine the grip pressure necessary for consistent results. It is quite subjective to generalize on required grip pressure.
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #12 on: March 19, 2012, 06:59:59 PM »
Grip pressure varies with hand/wrist/forearm strength.  I have some arthritis in my hands/wrists and have to remember to grip very firmly with a "tight" forearm when shooting one handed...working on grip/forearm strength now.  No problem with two handed grip. 
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #13 on: March 19, 2012, 07:53:49 PM »
Hitman82,

 +1 on All of the above. I like the 147gr ammo you may want to give that a try. I also think that the straight grip extensions from Yankee2500 are the best thing going. That extra length reduces muzzle flip to make it more controllable. I also think it helps prevent/limit limp wristing. Robar233
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Re: R9 jams
« Reply #14 on: March 26, 2012, 09:50:09 PM »
Quote from: Z on March 18, 2012, 08:42:14 PM
Hitman

Sorry to hear your range issues.
Try giving it a good cleaning and try some Speeer 115 grain Gold Dots.
Let us know how you make out. Keep us posted!

I second that advice, Mike
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