Relocating the topic for general commentary:
Newt said:
MHO if you have drawn your R9 in time to use your Lazer grips you have drawn too soon and could end up with an indefensible shoot!
pbwe said:
"What is an "indefensible shoot"? "
riffraff said:
An indefensable shoot is any shooting where you are arrested and prosecuted and if things go really bad, you are sent to prison.
pbwe said:
"Can additional resources for learning the criteria of an indefensible shoot be suggested?"
riffraff said:
"The big answer to your question is no, not really. The first thing to do is take the conceiled carry course for your state. If your state does not have it yet then the other alternative is to do some research on YOUR STATE AND LOCAL LAWS. Self defense/deadly force laws VARY A LOT from state to state AND WITHIN MUNICIPALITIES. I will attempt to give you the best answer to your question. Keep in mind that I AM NOT A LAWYER and this IS NOT LEGAL ADVICE. The only time that one can use deadly force except when you are INSIDE YOUR OWN HOME OR BUSINESS is when you are convinced that YOU OR SOMEONE ELSE IS IN EMINENT DANGER OF DEATH OR SEVERE BODILY HARM.
The keys here are that when the police arrive it has to look to them like it was self defense so when the report goes to the prosecutor he will not have much to base a prosecution on and if it goes that far OR it goes to a civil trial you have to be on the correct side of right and wrong in the eyes of any potential jury.
Something else to keep in mind is this: If you are carrying(or possess) a gun illegally in the first place it will not go well for you if you are involved in any type of shooting. Even if the BG is breaking the law you too are breaking the law and you both will probably see jail time. Carry or possess legally only. AND HERE AGAIN STATE AND LOCAL LAWS VARY WIDLY. CHECK YOUR STATE AND LOCAL LAWS. Sorry for the Caps but these points are extremely important. "