I owned a Seecamp .380 for about a year. Never shot it, read a lot on the Seecamp Forum, and admired the workmanship in it. Finally, I got a chance to shoot a friend's Seecamp .380 at the range. He wore a piece of medical tape. Not me…what can all the fuss about cuts be about? 5 shots and a lost slice of skin is what its all about! I am not into Sado Masochism, so bye bye Seecamp .380. Sold it. Beautiful gun, but not for me. Shot a friends CW380. Nice gun. Not a .380 fan any longer for concealed carry. My new attitude is that concealed carry is not about style, comfort, cost, or weight. It is about carrying the best made, most effective, most reliable firearm that someday may have to save my life or someone else's. Enter the Rohrbaugh R9. It meets all the criteria that's important to me…all of them. Is it the ultimate carry piece? I don't know nor do I care. For now, it is my good friend.