Author Topic: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.  (Read 7223 times)

Offline Ghost Chili

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Hi guys!  Happy to finally be able to join the ranks of R9 owners.  Been lurking on this forum on and off for over a year and all over the internet trying to get what info I could on the R9.  The hefty price put me off, but I am a firm believer of "you get what you pay for", so I decided I would eventually get one.  My local gun shop had one on the shelf that was used and came with a pancake belt holster, 4 mags, and the rest of the factory gear.  The price was reasonable and I had been wanting to get one ever since I saw it.  My old pocket carry guns are a KelTec P-32 and a S&W Bodyguard 380.  The Bodyguard 380 is pretty close in size to the R9, so being able to have 7 rounds of 9mm instead of .380 is pretty good. 

As customary for me when bringing home a new toy, I strip it down for cleaning and lubing.  Apparently, this one (SN# R4xxx) was hardly used at all.  There was hardly any wear marks on the black aluminum frame and the rest of the gun was spotless.  Makes me wonder if the original owner had even fired it at all.  At any rate, the gun was dry, so I went ahead and applied some light oil to the mating surfaces.  I read this gun should not be "wet" with lube, but a light coat is sufficient.  I did not come across any mention of the dry teflon or wax lubes.  Wondering if those would be better as they do not attract lint or grime as easily. 

Secondly, I had read of some guys having had issues with the recoil spring assembly coming apart and shooting the guide rod out into the range.  Are the guide rods threaded into the base or crimped in? 

Lastly, I do a lot of dry-fire practice with my carry guns along with drawing and reload drills.  I always dry-fire with snap caps, and I was wondering if the R9 has any issues with repeated dry-fire practice.

I will be taking the R9 out to the range for a first shooting session and plan to try a variety of ball ammo to check for ammo preferences.  Planned carry load will be 124gr. Gold Dots.  Hoping the gun will chew through them flawlessly. 


Thanks!

Offline Richard S

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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2012, 12:41:12 PM »
GC:

Welcome to the Forum and congratulations on obtaining your R9.

It would seem to me that you have done exactly what was needed for the first range trip. With regard to the dry teflon and wax lubes, I don't use them myself but know of some others who do. I run my R9 a little "wetter" than many, but then I'm a little obsessive/compulsive about cleaning it. Sometimes I'll disassemble and clean it just because I'm bored and enjoy the task.

The disc of the guide rod assembly is threaded. Here is one link to a discussion of the subject:

http://www.rohrbaughforum.com/index.php?topic=3367.msg36218#msg36218

After more than eight years of use and several outer spring replacements, the disc on mine is still as tight as it was when I took delivery of the gun. 

Dry firing the R9, especially with Snap Caps, presents no problems. I keep some 9mm Snap Caps in my "war bag" and use them in my R9 quite a bit.

Good luck, and give us a range report.
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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2012, 12:50:59 PM »
Ghost Chili

Welcome to the forum and enjoy your new PUP. :)
Let us know how you make out on the range.

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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2012, 01:30:44 PM »
Congrats,.....recently picked one up as well.
I am extremely pleased!   8)

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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2012, 03:36:26 PM »
DO you have to pull the slide back on an R9 to reset the trigger - the way you do with a Glock?

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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2012, 04:02:19 PM »
why do you need to reset the trigger?

is the trigger not activating the hammer?

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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2012, 04:34:51 PM »
Got back from the range and did a thorough cleaning and lubing of the R9.  Put almost 100 rounds downrange with only 3 failure to fires.  The 3 rounds were the Herter's Select steel cased 115gr. ammo.  I know for a fact the primers were on the harder side as even my Sig 239 and Para PDA had issues igniting them.  On the other hand, the 3 rounds fired on the second trigger pull, so the R9 having the second-strike capability is a real bonus, in my opinion.  The brands I shot:

- Herter's Select 115gr. steel cased
- Herter's Select 115gr. brass cased
- Magtech 115gr.
- Speer Gold Dot 124gr.

I shot about 3 mags worth of each type of ammo.  Not surprisingly, the Gold Dot ammo was perfectly flawless and shot closest to point of aim.  Both Magtech and the brass cased Herter's ammo were flawless as well.  Surprisingly, all ammo tested shot very close to point of aim with the steel cased Herter's being the furthest off impacting about 2 inches off the center at 8 o'clock.  My best grouping was about 2" at 7 yards. 

"Punchy" is the first term that came to mind when I fired the first shot.  The R9 definitely recoils snappier than any of my other 9mm guns, but then again, it is a good 8oz. lighter and offers less hand real estate.  Overall a very good trip to the range with the R9.  Having read about other positive range reports, I was expecting a similar experience and was not let down.  The trigger pull on the R9 is incredible.  Easily the smoothest pull I had ever experienced on a box-stock gun.  I probably dry-fired about 300 times last night after I had cleaned the lubed the gun for the first time.  I had gotten a very good feel for the trigger and was able to stage it just so that it would break cleanly to allow me the most accurate slow shooting.  Double-taps were a little bit of a handful with the snappy recoil, but I did manage to keep them within the confines of the standard human silhouette target.  I did shoot one-handed and although the groups were horrible, the gun functioned perfectly - even with my left (weak) hand. 

I am quite pleased with my investment.  I like the ability to carry 7 rounds of 9mm in my pocket in a similar size as the Bodyguard 380.  I will admit that I can shoot better and faster with my KelTec P-32, but that is simply due to the fact that it is a much smaller caliber and I have carried and trained with it for years longer.  I am a strong believer of training with your carry weapon and drilling with it to the point that drawing and clearing jams become second nature.  While the notion that the R9 is meant to be carried lots and fired little puts me off a bit, I feel the gun itself can certainly take the abuse.  I think I read somewhere on these forums that someone had over 1500 rounds through his R9.  Nevertheless, I plan to train with this gun since it has now become my primary carry.  The only thing that I feel will be a major snag will be mag changes.  I never carried a gun with a European style mag release, but it is simple enough.  Practice will make perfect (or at least close). 


I will probably try a dry wax lube used for bike chains.  I had used that before on my Sig with good results.  So far, I am using auto tranny fluid as a lubricant.  Stuff works great in guns and is cheaper than all the other high-end lubricants out there. 

C0untZer0, no.  You do not have to rack the slide to reset the trigger.  The R9 is truly hammer fired and will cock and drop the hammer with every pull of the trigger. 

Faawrenchbndr, thanks!  Same to you.  I saw your R9 and those grips are killer.  Been looking at the VZ grips since I got my R9. 

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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #7 on: August 03, 2012, 09:23:38 PM »
Ghost Chili,

 Welcome to the forum and I am glad you took the plunge and bought an R9. I did the same thing you did and have not looked back. I carry my R9 Robar 95% of the time. The rest of the time I either go really small with the LWS 380 or big with one of several semi-autos.

 As for lubrication, I have to say I stick with stuff that really was made for guns. Yeah, I have a former S/F buddy who uses Mobil 1 on his AR's. That is nice, but I will spend the extra $$$ for fully synthetic Weapon Shield even if it is Mobil 1 in a different package. The money I have spent on guns makes buying "gun" lubricants worth the $$ for my peace of mind.

 Lastly, the Magtech 115gr, was that +P? I thought Magtech was "hot" ammo. I have had super luck with 147gr for carry ammo. Feeds like a charm and less felt recoil.

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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #8 on: August 03, 2012, 10:59:45 PM »
Thanks, Robar.  Funny how one can be willing to go all out for a high-end gun but then get all pinch-penny with the lubricants.  I used auto tranny fluid in the past since it was something my father used on his guns.  I later stumbled across a decent article on gun lubricants and it seems the consensus is similar:

http://www.grantcunningham.com/lubricants101.html

The Magtech ammo is regular pressure.  I did not find any +P labels on the box nor the headstamp on the case.  Felt recoil was about the same as the other standard 9mm ammo.  In my experience, Fiocchi, S&B, and Corbon ammo tend to be loaded on the hotter side even though they are not labeled as +P.  Corbon's marketing philosophy is high-velocity so I think it stands to reason their ammo is hotter than average.  The 124gr. Gold Dot is the heaviest bullet I have shot out of the R9.  I have typically carried the 124gr. +P ammo in my Para PDA when I want a larger gun and had very good results with it - impacted point of aim and functioned flawlessly.  I have read about some of the the 147gr. bullets not generating enough speed out of the little barrel and failing to expand.  Seems the 124gr. still has enough speed to expand, albeit not as much as the 115gr., but the reduced expansion results in deeper penetration.  Just my opinion in bullet selection.  I'm sure any of the 9mm bullets would do the job admirably out of the R9. 


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Re: Over a year in the making, but I finally got a R9S. Some questions.
« Reply #9 on: August 03, 2012, 11:46:10 PM »
Ghost Chili, Welcome to the group.
   Enjoy your new pup and good range report.
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