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Offline badkneestom

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New and searching: the r9?
« on: April 05, 2012, 12:13:45 AM »
Hi all,
I'm 21 and in the market for a reliable cc pistol. I will soon be moving into new development , through luck and love, in what was recently reestablished as one of the most dangerous cities. I tell people we're the pioneers that settle frontier before everyone else chooses to enjoy the landscape.

I'm looking for a small, mid cal pistol that I can defend myself with if necessary. I'm looking at the Rohrbaugh r9, the Ruger lc9, and the smith and wesson bodyguard 38. I'd love to settle in on the r9 but here's the thought:

Worries:
-Lack of a safety. Is the double action enough?
-Recoil. Can I hold onto the pup with adrenaline and nerves?
-Maintenance. I've handled paintball guns, but I've heard the r9 is very simple. That'd be great, my only dismantling of my 98 custom resulted in the spring firing the back cap across the room.

I've also been told that you'll probably never see your cc gun again if the officials make a reason to relieve you of it. The r9 isn't cheap, but I've heard its high quality. I worry I could lose my investment if i use it for the reason I purchased it.

Appreciate all help
Tom

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #1 on: April 05, 2012, 12:17:26 AM »
Must say, the personal level of the company is also a huge draw. Small company that cares? I'd much rather place my investment there. Rohrbaugh feels like a brand that will only grow.

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #2 on: April 05, 2012, 12:45:18 AM »
Must say, the personal level of the company is also a huge draw. Small company that cares? I'd much rather place my investment there. Rohrbaugh feels like a brand that will only grow.

Tom.  Welcome to the Forum.  Does sound like you're going to be in a bad neighborhood and wish you well in that respect.  I highly recommend the R9 and can understand you wouldn't want it taken from you by the officials, so don't know the circumstances there.  The R9 is one fine pistol, as you've come to find out.  Again, welcome to the Forum and good luck with your decision and stay safe.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 12:50:18 AM by kjtrains »
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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #3 on: April 05, 2012, 07:07:28 AM »
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I'm looking for a small, mid cal pistol that I can defend myself with if necessary. I'm looking at the Rohrbaugh r9, the Ruger lc9, and the smith and wesson bodyguard 38. I'd love to settle in on the r9 but here's the thought:

Worries:
-Lack of a safety. Is the double action enough?
-Recoil. Can I hold onto the pup with adrenaline and nerves?
-Maintenance. I've handled paintball guns, but I've heard the r9 is very simple. That'd be great, my only dismantling of my 98 custom resulted in the spring firing the back cap across the room.

I've also been told that you'll probably never see your cc gun again if the officials make a reason to relieve you of it. The r9 isn't cheap, but I've heard its high quality. I worry I could lose my investment if i use it for the reason I purchased it.

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All three of the handguns (two pistols and one revolver) you mention would suffice, but the R9 is in my opinion simply the finest pocket handgun yet designed. 

As for your "worries":

1.  Lack of a Safety.  The R9's DAO design with a trigger pull of about 8 pounds is the safety. Just be sure to carry the pistol in a good holster that covers the trigger.

2.  Recoil.  Being a 13-ounce pistol chambered for 9mm Parabellum, the R9 requires a firm grip to stabilize it during the recoil process. The R9's recoil is sharp but entirely controllable.  In the event (Lord forbid) that you should ever need to use the R9 in an emergency situation, your adrenalin level will probably be so high that you will be gripping the pistol like a vise. 

3.  Maintenance.  The R9 is an elegant and uncluttered design.  Due to its tight tolerances, the pistol needs to be kept clean and lubricated.  Field stripping the piece is easily done when you know how.  Just read the manual and the FAQ section of this Forum for guidance and take it "slow and easy" until you have mastered the process.  It goes without saying that you should wear safety glasses when working on a pistol.  Spring loaded parts sometimes like to fly.  (Anyone who hasn't had that experience at one time or another hasn't cleaned many guns.) 

4.  After-incident Disposition of Firearm.  If you know your local laws and abide by them, you should be able to have your firearm returned by law enforcement if it is taken in as evidence pending investigation of a self-defense shooting.  Should you be found to have acted in accordance with law and incur difficulty in having your firearm returned, take the issue to court.  However, if you were found to have carried and used a gun without a carry permit or in violation of law, you should expect to have the gun permanently confiscated.  In such a situation, however, losing the firearm would be the least of your concerns.

The decision to carry a firearm is a serious one that carries a commensurate degree of responsibility.  Know the applicable laws, practice with your carry piece whenever possible, and stay safe.

Finally, welcome to the Forum.
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 11:25:40 AM by Richard S »
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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #4 on: April 05, 2012, 12:09:56 PM »
Tom, welcome to the forum, enjoy it here. As said in answer to your questions, the bottom line is the R9 will not disappoint you at all. 9mm, small, pocketable, well made and life time warranty all say alot. If you need help in getting one please let me know, as I get in R9s all the time. I can then ship a pistol to your local dealer for transfer to you in a timely fashion. You can PM me or send an email to   tomswatson@sbcglobal.net   Tom
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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #5 on: April 05, 2012, 10:32:41 PM »
I  really appreciate all the replies. Tom, I may be in contact with you soon.

Richard, I get a strong feeling that you view me as a rebellious youth who chooses to wield a firearm at the edge of the law. I cannot prove that thought wrong, but only state that i worry about losing the r9 because of typecasting to that extent. The fact that I'm younger automatically creates a certain stereotype, regardless of my personal history. I have a perfect, no moving violation, driving record, have a 3.6 college gpa as a science major, and am socially active in the community while maintaining an understanding of my situation in the world.

I shy away from suggesting that you're placing me in that stereotype Richard as I may have simply read your post wrong. Internet discussion lacks emotion and tone.


I met a co-worker who owns a ruger lc9 today. I look forward to holding the smallest 9mm on the market.

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #6 on: April 05, 2012, 10:38:19 PM »
I'd hate to lose my potential, future r9 also because I am a hard-working college student struggling to maintain a debt free status. The moderate hourly wage I earn working 4 days a week doesn't quickly purhase me a new r9. It would flat out suck to lose such a beaut I worked so hard for.

What rounds work best with the r9? I've read I can dq p+
« Last Edit: April 05, 2012, 11:45:05 PM by badkneestom »

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #7 on: April 05, 2012, 11:53:49 PM »
Tom:

If I sounded didactic I did not so intend. I suppose that at my age one tends to become a bit of a lecturer. Blame it on a career spent on a number of diverse paths -- Army JAG prosecutor, civilian trial and appellate attorney, a couple of other vocations in some of the armpits of the world, college vice president, and more recently a semi-retired appellate attorney representing primarily pro bono clients in whose causes I believe. In doing so I am merely attempting to repay in some measure the extraordinarily good fortune I have received.

I funded my college and law school education by working during the day and attending classes at night. At 21, I could not have afforded a handgun as elegant as one of the R9s today. (I did, however, manage to score a great set of wheels -- a 1954 Triumph TR2.)  It was before the time of student loans, so it was "pay-as-you-go" at GWU, with a draft board watching my every move pending my entry into OCS.

You have my admiration and my best wishes for success in your academic and professional careers.  Since you are a science major, I am confident that you will make the rational decision as to which handgun you need for the next stage in your life.

As for what rounds work best with the R9, you are right about avoiding +P ammunition. The R9 weighs only 13 ounces and is not designed around the high-pressure rounds. The general consensus on the Forum seems to center around 115 or 124-grain Speer Gold Dots. Others use Winchester Silver Tips. I personally use standard pressure 124-grain Remington Golden Sabers. If you purchase one of the R9s, find which fodder works best for you and your pistol and stay with it.

Good luck to you, and remember to "watch your six."
« Last Edit: April 06, 2012, 12:08:44 AM by Richard S »
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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #8 on: April 07, 2012, 10:16:46 PM »
IMO there is a significant difference in size between the R9 and the LC9.  I have tried the trigger on the LC9 a few times and the trigger and I've ruled it out as a carry gun for myself.  The worst thing about the trigger for me is that it is so long that my trigger finger kind of does a weird thing 3/4 of the way through the pull, I can't completely describe it, bu I think that the trihher pull is so long that I can't pull it just by flexing my trigger finger from the second joint.  It's like 3/4 of the way through the pull I have to bring different muscles into play, I have to move my trigger finger at the first joint and use my finger tip to press back in on the trigger to get it to fire.  The result is, the front sight is swerving all over the place while my trigger finger is going through these contortions.

Maybe with practice I could learn to eliminate all that, maintain good sight picture and fire it accurately, but the trigger design sure doesn't make it easy.

The other thing about the R9 is that it has been around for awhile.  There are some relatively new designs out there like the Kimber Solo and the Diamondback DB9 - but I don't think the kinks have been worked out of either the designs or the manufacturing process.  Too many owners of both of those guns have reported problems.  And there have been similarly compact designs that have come and went or never even made it into full production - like the MSAR Archangel.   The R9 has been around since 2004 and it has a reputation of working.

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #9 on: April 25, 2012, 11:34:07 PM »
Appreciate the replies all, sorry I haven't been able to get back sooner.  Been a busy month.

I'm torn between affordable and an NAA in longrifle or the R9.  I've been told a lot not to trust a .22

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #10 on: April 26, 2012, 09:03:06 AM »
Hi Tom, welcome to the forum! Please read my post with a grain of salt. I'm in no way an expert on anything so the following is just my opinion. And you know what they say about opinions...  ;)

Without a doubt, .22LR has many great uses but it would not be my first choice for self defense. Your shot placement would have to be near perfect with 22 and I'd prefer a little wiggle room. I remember reading a news article a few winters ago that a woman's thick winter "puffer" jacket stopped a stray 22 during a drive by. I'm sure there were other contributing factors, but I found the idea of that a little disconcerting.

If your budget wont allow for an R9, there are many other great choices out there in 9mm or 380 for carry. I love single action triggers, so my other carry is a SIG P238. Very similar in size/weight to the R9 and a lot less expensive. If you're not a fan of 380, you could always look at the Kahr CM9. Same mechanics as their PM9 with a lower price.

If you're leaning towards a revolver, you should check out the Ruger LCR. I had a chance to compare one to a S&W Bodyguard and the trigger on the LCR is fantastic. Been thinking about picking one up for myself ever since...

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #11 on: April 29, 2012, 09:07:58 PM »
I figure if I'm going to save for a pistol, I might as well save for one I truly want!

I do have a question before I commit to a pup though.  I know it's not supposed to be fired often, but I want to practice with it.  Is there going to be damage to any parts of the gun from my practice?

I know the recoil spring is replaceable every ~200 rounds, but is there going to be any other wear or degrading of the gun if I shoot a thousand rounds through it?

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Re: New and searching: the r9?
« Reply #12 on: April 29, 2012, 09:13:05 PM »
I figure if I'm going to save for a pistol, I might as well save for one I truly want!

I do have a question before I commit to a pup though.  I know it's not supposed to be fired often, but I want to practice with it.  Is there going to be damage to any parts of the gun from my practice?

I know the recoil spring is replaceable every ~200 rounds, but is there going to be any other wear or degrading of the gun if I shoot a thousand rounds through it?

Nope.  Pardon the short answer, but Tom of the Irish Guard Firearms has two customers that have put 5,000 rds each through their pups and they're still going.  Get yours and enjoy.    :)
« Last Edit: April 29, 2012, 10:13:56 PM by kjtrains »
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