I hope that other holster makers will be mentioned here,and hopefully will become a referance for those that are looking looking to purchase one,my experience has been,that w/the 9s that it lends itself to a pocket holster,for spur of the moment travel,and the weight factor of about 18 oz loaded is about the upper limit for slacks,and my s&w scandia w/lazer grips falls into the pocket carry class very well,i make referan ce to 2 articles in concealed carry magazine,both vol 2,issues 1&4,which have excellant articles on holsters and which activities are best suited for each carry method,the only thing i find lacking was the smart carry method.