The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: billib on August 19, 2012, 12:22:49 PM
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Ok, I pulled out the Glock 19 Gen. 2 a few days ago
and dry fired it. I hadn't remembered just how good
its stock trigger felt. The problem is, I just can't leave
well enough alone. So, I looked a various Youtube
videos on how to breakdown and perform a trigger job.
I used a small bench grinder because bigger should
get the job done faster than a Dremel Tool, right?
No, no, no.........things went well. Its now smooth
as silk and breaks like the proverbial glass rod.
Don't get me wrong, the Glock really didn't NEED a
trigger job.......but!
So things turned out really well. I was wondering if
actually shelling out money for some type of spring
kit was in order. I can't imagine it improving anything
except maybe lightening the Trigger pull. I really
don't want a lighter Trigger so is their any other reason
for doing more if I'm very happy with it in its current
condition. I guess what I'm asking is, am I missing
something buy not installing some magical springs?
What do ya'll recommend?
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Bill,
At this point it sounds like your chances of making things worse are greater than making them better. My vote would be to leave things as they are.
-Ryan
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Thanks Blue! Thats kinda' what I thought.
I guess I wanted to be told to stop. Remember,
I used a Bench Grinder to perform my Trigger
Job.
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Bill,
At this point it sounds like your chances of making things worse are greater than making them better. My vote would be to leave things as they are.
-Ryan
Agreed.
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Remember, I used a Bench Grinder to perform my Trigger
Job.
You are a brave brave man....
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I have a light touch and used Jewelers Rouge
as a polishing agent.
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I wonder if there might be some issues to consider such as liability in court, or lightened firing pin strike.
I can imagine the courtroom scene, "So Mr. Billib, you think you know better how to build a gun than Mr. Gaston Glock? Did you really mean to pull the trigger, or was it an involuntary hand clinch?"
I asked a glock armorer what he wound do to one of my glock, and he asked me why I wanted to change it.
Anyway, I like the way you think, and your posts are always interesting.
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Thanks Griff, the problem is proving
"I" did anything to improve my favorite
implement of death.
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Sneaky lawyers would probably find what you wrote on gun forums. Of course I am not talking about any attorneys that may be members here, and anything I said or might say is meant in the nicest way.
And it's not that all lawyers that are bad, it's just that 99% of them give the rest of them a bad name.
Just sayin'
Insert smiley faces here.
You can't be too careful. I recommend a belt and suspenders.
More smiley faces
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I would only shoot someone that
was in the process of robbing me
or worse. The state in which I live
has a shoot the burglar law. I sleep
fine. I'll leave the worrying to you.
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Same here billib, I love living in OK.
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I'm sorry if I sounded like I was suggesting that you were worried or that I was worrying, that wasn't my intent.
I went back and read the string of posts again that you started about the trigger job, and wanted to clarify my response.
Also, it probably looks like I have something against lawyers. I don't. I was trying to be funny. It probably wasn't. I appologise to any attorneys that found offense, as well.
What I was wanting to express is that I agreed with you in not replacing the trigger spring to lighten trigger pull. I was just introducing a scenario that addressed the issue from a non-mechanical angle.
About being careful, If one strives to have the best tools, and trains to be able to use them well, and is prepared for the consequences, then if someone pulls your suspenders off, you still have your belt for back-up.
I shot my Glock gen 4 17 today, and it really is sweet. It gobbled up everything it was fed, spit out all the bones, and punched nice round holes where it was pointed.
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Also, it probably looks like I have something against lawyers. I don't. I was trying to be funny. It probably wasn't. I appologise to any attorneys that found offense, as well.
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There is no need to apologize, Griff. I regret to say that some members of the Bar these days are frankly an embarrassment to the profession. One wonders how they even managed to graduate from their law schools much less pass their Bar examinations.
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Thank's Richard. I guess this medium has it's limitations in that you can't get subtle nuances. It makes me more appreciate people that are able to convey their intended message without stepping on other people.
Ha, I guess the greatest limitation may just be imperfect people trying to get thru the day. I have benefitted so much from what others have shared on here, that I went ahead and joined to try to give something back from my own experiences and studies.
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picked up my first gun..glock 17 gen4 to use for HD and range...I like that trigger
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I have benefitted so much from what others have shared on here, that I went ahead and joined to try to give something back from my own experiences and studies.
Griff:
That is the reason Duane ("DDGator") established this Forum, which I believe has proven to be the most civil gun board on the Internet. Welcome again to the campfire.
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I have benefitted so much from what others have shared on here, that I went ahead and joined to try to give something back from my own experiences and studies.
Griff:
That is the reason Duane ("DDGator") established this Forum, which I believe has proven to be the most civil gun board on the Internet. Welcome again to the campfire.
I think the civility is do in large part to your example of expression.......I'm sure many will agree....JMO
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Thank you, Jack, but I would suggest that the credit goes to the firm and evenhanded way in which Duane administers the Forum and to knowledgeable and experienced members such as yourself.
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I have a gen 2 G-19 I bought in the early 80s, it has never missed a beat and has around 30,000 rounds through it. 8)
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I have two Gen. 2 Glocks a 19 and a 27. Recently
a good friend and shooting buddy of mine asked
when I was getting a new Gen. 4 Glock. I said
never. He was shocked because he knows how
much I enjoy shooting my Glocks at the Range.
He asked why not and I responded by asking him
when he was buying a "NEW" Colt 1911 A1.
The problem is you can't buy a "NEW" Colt 1911
pistol. You can buy a 100 year old 1911 made
recently, as far as I'm concerned thats NOT new
but outdated. The Glock suffers from the
same problem. When Gaston or rather Glock INC.
bothers to bring their gun into the modern
world and makes it go BANG on every
pull of the Trigger, then and only then will
I consider buying a NEW Glock. A Gen. 4 Glock
is nothing more than a Gen. 1 with different
grips. Its a forty year old design. I'd prefer to
buy a Boberg or a Rohrbaugh or something
thats actually legitimately modern.
I enjoy owning and shooting Glocks and Colts
and my Luger made in 1917, but as long as
Glock allows their guns to stagnate, I won't be
buying a Gen. 4 and I won't be carrying my Gen. 2's
anywhere except to the Range. Their will be
no Gen. 4 Glock in my future.
What kind of gun is in YOUR future? Are YOU
attracted to a stagnant gun design? Do you
lie to yourself and believe that a (insert OLD
gun design here) is as good as a truly modern
gun? Do you carry an OLD gun design when
it would make more sense and be safer to
carry a modern one?
I would never carry a Club or a Sword or a Musket
or a 1911 Colt or a 1917 German Luger or even
a Gen. 4 Glock........they are simply not as safe
as a truly modern gun design. I wonder how
many are honest with themselves and agree
with me?
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The old reliable 1911 is fine with me. It has always gone bang on every pull of the trigger and unlike the Boberg it has never separated the projectile from the case before the trigger was pulled and unlike the Rohrbaugh it does not care how hard the primer is or what brand the ammo is, it will feed and fire any brand of ammo.
I have owned my Glock 19 since the early 80s. I have never carried it but it has never had a malfunction in over 30,000 rounds fired.
My idea of a good carry gun is Reliability first and then fit, feel, ease of aiming and getting off an accurate second shot.
I guess my question is what type of modern 100% reliable space blaster are you using ?
Sometimes if it aint broke don't fix it.
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I like some of each and am prejudicial to none: antique; middle-aged; or modern are all right with me.
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Forgive me, but the mention of antique firearms prompted me to retrieve this news story from archives: ;D
Ocala Star Banner, June 25, 2005
"Furious that their romance was ending, a 78-year-old great-grandmother shot her 85-year-old ex-beau to death as he read the newspaper in a senior citizens home, police said. 'I did it and I'd do it again!' Lena Driskell yelled to officers who arrived at the home June 10, according to testimony. Police said she was wearing a bathrobe and slippers, waving an antique handgun with her finger still on the trigger.
"She is accused of plotting the shooting of Herman Winslow because she was angry that their yearlong romance was ending and he had found another companion . . . ."
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One time a guy with a single action Colt waxed me with my "Modern" Auto in a Bowling Pin shoot off; man on man. He was fast!
As Richards 2005 story suggests, it's not necessarily WHAT you have, It's WHAT you can do with it! 8)