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Title: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ljutic on August 16, 2012, 04:36:39 PM
I hope so, but you never know until it's on the market.

http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2012/08/boberg-xr9-l-sneak-peek-from-one-of.html (http://mousegunaddict.blogspot.com/2012/08/boberg-xr9-l-sneak-peek-from-one-of.html)

Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: BlueC2 on August 16, 2012, 05:37:59 PM
Thanks for sharing, very interesting write up. Arine has taken a new approach in a very traditional industry and I hope that it pays off for him.
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Robar233 on August 16, 2012, 06:02:51 PM
Ljutic,

 It is a very informative post. I have not done a great deal of research on the Boberg "S" but I would be interested in seeing and feeling this model.
 I thought I read something that they are coming out with a .45ACP. I wonder who will get one to the market first; Boberg of Rohrbaugh?

 Robar233
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ljutic on August 16, 2012, 08:53:41 PM
Ljutic,

 It is a very informative post. I have not done a great deal of research on the Boberg "S" but I would be interested in seeing and feeling this model.
 I thought I read something that they are coming out with a .45ACP. I wonder who will get one to the market first; Boberg of Rohrbaugh?

 Robar233

They are coming out with a .45 at some point.  Not sure it it will be 45 GAP or 45 ACP.  Rumors of both have been floating around. 
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: billib on August 16, 2012, 09:33:29 PM
The original Boberg sorta' leaves me cold.
This one looks more like something I could
warm up to. I already have a Micro 9. That
X9R-L in a .40 S&W could get me to open
my wallet.

BTW Ljutic, another truly great Blog!
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: MRC on August 17, 2012, 08:12:03 AM
The original Boberg sorta' leaves me cold.
This one looks more like something I could
warm up to. I already have a Micro 9. That
X9R-L in a .40 S&W could get me to open
my wallet.

BTW Ljutic, another truly great Blog!

I agree with you on Ljutic's work.

I think to truly appreciate a Boberg, you must handle it and shoot it.  After a range session it starts to look a lot better.
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ljutic on August 17, 2012, 12:34:21 PM
Thanks for the comments on the blog.

I agree that the Shorty carries and shoots better than it looks.  The L just looks better with the reshaped trigger guard and longer snout.  The ballistic advantage really shines with this model.  Even though I've compared to the G19, I've been told the 4.2" Boberg barrel matches or exceeds the 4.5" Glock barrel in the G17.  I'm skeptical and Arne knows that, but I'm more than willing to keep an open mind and run a fair test on those claims.  If it pans out, that's a huge accomplishment.



Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: MRC on August 17, 2012, 01:26:06 PM
I chronographed Federal HST 124 +P, Hornady Critical Duty 135 +P, and Speer Gold Dot 124 through a Boberg XR9s, Kahr PM9, and a Kimber Solo.  The PM9 was 5 to 10 fps slower and the Solo was about 30 to 40 fps slower than the Boberg.  I think that they use fast burning powders in these self defense loads to keep the flash down.  Anyway the longer barrel really did not give the extra performance I expected or Boberg advertises.  I talked to Arne on this and he is aware that many common self defense loads perform this way.
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ghost Chili on August 18, 2012, 10:51:06 AM
I browsed the Boberg forum about the L model and I was not able to find info regarding if this larger model will have a slide stop release lever on it.  I would really like to see the pistol have a last shot lock open feature.  If Boberg starts producing the L model, I would likely put my order in for one. 
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ljutic on August 18, 2012, 10:57:05 AM
I browsed the Boberg forum about the L model and I was not able to find info regarding if this larger model will have a slide stop release lever on it.  I would really like to see the pistol have a last shot lock open feature.  If Boberg starts producing the L model, I would likely put my order in for one.

Hi Jason. 

As with all things in life you usually have to give up one thing to get something else.  The feed system that allows for the longer barrel also makes it impossible to include a last round lock open feature.  The Boberg feed system pulls the cartridge from the magazine before pushing it into the chamber. 
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ghost Chili on August 18, 2012, 05:23:44 PM
Hi Bruce!  Thanks for the coverage of the new happenings with the Boberg on your blog.  I also noticed the magazines lack a follower so I suppose that can complicate the issue.  Oh well, it still is a really cool pistol.  I really like how it looks with the longer snout. 
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Douglas on August 18, 2012, 07:30:55 PM
In the example given I would expect the dominant influence would be the negative of the much shorter sight radius vs. the dubious positive of a fractionally longer barrel.
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ljutic on August 19, 2012, 08:20:34 PM
In the example given I would expect the dominant influence would be the negative of the much shorter sight radius vs. the dubious positive of a fractionally longer barrel.

If I was planning on shooting 25 Yard NRA Bullseye matches with it, I would agree with you.  Fortunately, that's not the purpose of the XR9-L or the Glock 19.
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Douglas on August 20, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
Fair enough, but...

I'm well acquainted with the purpose of the Glock 19. I've carried one for twenty years and never been to a bullseye match.

I stand by it.

I'll take 3/4s of an inch sight radius over less than 2/10ths of an inch barrel length every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Neither is a huge deal, but the former has some potential value while I don't believe the latter does at all.  :)
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ljutic on August 23, 2012, 04:01:43 PM
Fair enough, but...

I'm well acquainted with the purpose of the Glock 19. I've carried one for twenty years and never been to a bullseye match.

I stand by it.

I'll take 3/4s of an inch sight radius over less than 2/10ths of an inch barrel length every day of the week and twice on Sunday. Neither is a huge deal, but the former has some potential value while I don't believe the latter does at all.  :)

You sir are more than welcome to have the last word on the value of sight radius.  Enjoy!
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: yankee2500 on August 23, 2012, 09:41:04 PM
This non Pug version looks a lot better but I don't like the rail.
Title: Re: The Next Boberg?
Post by: Ljutic on August 23, 2012, 10:51:29 PM
This non Pug version looks a lot better but I don't like the rail.

Rail is optional.  You should be able to get the pistol with or without rail.