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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: C0untZer0 on April 16, 2012, 01:26:47 PM

Title: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: C0untZer0 on April 16, 2012, 01:26:47 PM: I posted on another forum that I seriously doubted that even one Rohrbaugh owner out of a thousand would trade in their R9 for the M&P Shield, but I thought I would pose the question here - I could be wrong.

Is anyone even considering it?

The reason I posted the question here instead of the "Other Guns" section is that to me, the question is more about the Rohrbaugh R9 than the Smith...
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Richard S on April 16, 2012, 01:33:54 PM: Not I, not ever. To borrow a phrase used by one of the Forum's early members, "Plastic's got no soul."
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: kjtrains on April 16, 2012, 01:41:25 PM: Quote from: C0untZer0 on April 16, 2012, 01:26:47 PM
I posted on another forum that I seriously doubted that even one Rohrbaugh owner out of a thousand would trade in their R9 for the M&P Shield, but I thought I would pose the question here - I could be wrong.

Is anyone even considering it?

The reason I posted the question here instead of the "Other Guns" section is that to me, the question is more about the Rohrbaugh R9 than the Smith...

Nor I; don't have anything against the Shield and even may consider getting a .40; but would just purchase it outright.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Z on April 16, 2012, 01:44:29 PM: For EDC I will take my PUP any day over a Shield.

Not to say I would not own a shield though!
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Giraffes on April 16, 2012, 02:55:48 PM: I would consider adding it to the carry rotation, but I can't think of anything that could replace my pup.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: C0untZer0 on April 16, 2012, 03:24:34 PM: I personally think the two pistols have two different roles, I wouldn't consider the Shield a pocket pistol, but you run across people who really love a particular brand or gun and I think their enthusiam clouds their reasoning. It's easy to find Glock fanatics who will absolutely insist the Glock 26 is definately a pocket pistol. I've run into fans of the Beretta Nano who say the same thing.

There are some people who are opining that people will trade their Kahr PM9 and CM9s in for this thing and I don't see that happening either.

To me, the Kahr PM9 is close to the Rohrbaugh, but this M&P Shield is just large enough to put it out of the pocket pistol category. I don't know why people would trade their PM9s in for it.

Really really can't see anyone replacing their R9 with a Sheild. The M&P will probably be fine with some kind IWB holster or someting but I don't see being practical to pull out of a pocket.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: DDGator on April 16, 2012, 04:03:31 PM: I really like S&W guns. I will review, and likely own a Shield.

But, I am not trading an R-9 for a Shield, nor am I trading my Lexus for a Toyota.

OK, I don't have a Lexus, but you know what I mean. Toyotas are great cars, but they are not Lexuses...Lexi....whatever.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Jack_F on April 16, 2012, 05:46:16 PM: Quote from: DDGator on April 16, 2012, 04:03:31 PM
I really like S&W guns. I will review, and likely own a Shield.

But, I am not trading an R-9 for a Shield, nor am I trading my Lexus for a Toyota.

OK, I don't have a Lexus, but you know what I mean. Toyotas are great cars, but they are not Lexuses...Lexi....whatever.

I have a Shield and really like the trigger and reset. I carried my R9 in my pocket the last two days. The R9 will be difficult if not impossoble to replace as a pocket gun.....JMO.... ;)...of course all forum members know that... ;D
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: yankee2500 on April 16, 2012, 05:52:20 PM: I may buy one of the 40 calls but not as a replacement to my pup or any other carry gun I have.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: jayson on April 16, 2012, 06:25:21 PM: No way no how! I will probably buy a shield though :D. The r9 is the perfect carry gun, I've entertained trading my elite but would be more inclined to trade it for a regular r9 and something else, I don't think after having owned an r9 if anything else will do.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Richard S on April 16, 2012, 08:48:19 PM: Quote from: Richard S on April 16, 2012, 01:33:54 PM
Not I, not ever. To borrow a phrase used by one of the Forum's early members, "Plastic's got no soul."

Rarely do I quote a post of my own, but this thread calls for an exception.

Here is a fine, slim, concealable, lightweight, striker-fired, polymer pistol with stainless-steel slide and barrel weighing 19 ounces:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/Miscellaneous%20Firearms/SmithWessonMPShield.jpg)

Now, here is a fine, slim, concealable, lightweight, hammer-fired, aircraft-aluminum-alloy pistol with stainless-steel slide and barrel weiging 13 ounces -- literally permeated with "soul" as it leaves the line and capable of receiving as much more "soul" as the owner cares to give it:

(http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y30/RichardS/CITESCompliantFarmingdaleR9No132-2.jpg)

Both pistols will protect you when the dreck hits the rotating blades, but I know which one I would choose to take with me to Valhalla.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Amacro on May 14, 2012, 02:07:57 PM: I bought the Nano like it and fun to shoot I did not trade my R9S for it - I did sell it about 2 years ago and as you can see I'm still lurking around miss my pup best carry gun I ever owned will probably buy another - old saying goes you never knew what you had till you traded it away.
Al
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: C0untZer0 on May 15, 2012, 12:07:12 PM: You never know what you have until it's gone...

I had a Browning High Power which I didn't really have a use for (or so I thought) since I had a P7M8...

Boy do I miss that BHP.

I also had a Colt Mustang, and I now I miss it to...
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: C0untZer0 on May 15, 2012, 12:13:07 PM: It does seem that some people were trading in some guns for the Shield - Kel-Tecs, Glock 26, M&P Compact for instance... S&W did a smart thing by having those guns available when the media blitz/product announcement / unvieling took place. People were predicting that folks would trade in their Kahr PM9/CM9/MK9 Rohrbaugh R9 - and all sorts of other models to get the Sheild and I just didn't see it happening, certainly not with R9 owners.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: DDGator on May 15, 2012, 01:30:53 PM: I like the Shield -- a lot. In fact, maybe enough to get me to trade my Glock for a full-size M&P. (Trade in the figurative sense, not the literal sense--i.e., trade places in my heart).

However, the Shield and the R-9 are totally different guns. PM-9, also different--but a little closer. Putting aside the quality issues, an R-9 is a true pocket gun. The Shield is not. You might get away with pocket carry in the right sized pocket, but its not a pocket gun.

As for actually trading guns -- be careful. You often regret the ones that get away.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Reinz on May 15, 2012, 04:10:26 PM: Guys in their 50's and beyond will remember the old Lucky Strike cigarette ads; " I'd rather fight than switch !" Showing a guy with a black eye.

My sentiments.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Jack_F on May 15, 2012, 06:00:41 PM: Quote from: DDGator on May 15, 2012, 01:30:53 PM
I like the Shield -- a lot. In fact, maybe enough to get me to trade my Glock for a full-size M&P. (Trade in the figurative sense, not the literal sense--i.e., trade places in my heart).

However, the Shield and the R-9 are totally different guns. PM-9, also different--but a little closer. Putting aside the quality issues, an R-9 is a true pocket gun. The Shield is not. You might get away with pocket carry in the right sized pocket, but its not a pocket gun.

As for actually trading guns -- be careful. You often regret the ones that get away.

I put some orange sight paint on the front sight of my Shield. It was a nice addition for me. The M&P pistols are easy to shoot well......JMO... ;)

I have two R9's though.............. ;D
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: sslater on May 17, 2012, 08:53:10 AM: I wouldn't trade my early R9s (serial # R3xx) for any other gun. Last year I bought a Ruger LC9 for those occasions when I wouldn't want to risk the Rohrbaugh, but found it doesn't fit as easily in the pocket. As good a shooter as LC9 is, compared to the R9s it feels like a clunker. A clunker with a somewhat weird trigger. Especially compared to the R9. I take that back - no other pocket-size gun compares to the R9 trigger feel. That's what sold me on the R9 back in 2005 when the late John Johnson let me handle and dry-fire his sample R9.
There is currently an empty spot in safe for a .40 S&W pistol, as I finally broke down and gave my 1994-vintage H&K USP to my son. That S&W M&P Shield in .40 S&W may be a good replacement as it is much more suited for concealed carry than the duty-size USP.
My nephew picked up a Shield in 9mm. He owns quite a few high end pistols and really likes the Shield for those quick trips to the store, etc. The only reason he didn't buy the .40 Shield is his gun shop couldn't get hold of one for him.
I'd probably wait another 3 to 6 months before buying a .40 S&W Shield. Been burned several times by my impulsive "need" to have the latest and greatest pistol (and car, and computer....)

Steve
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Retops on May 21, 2012, 10:47:21 PM: To me, the Shield is a nice looking small pistol, rather like my Walther PPS, but totally not a pocket gun. The only gun in the pocket for me is the R9 or possibly my old PM9.
Title: Re: Is there ANYONE considering trading their R9 for the new S&W M&P Shield ??
Post by: Dire_Straits on May 22, 2012, 08:46:32 AM: Not a chance of getting rid of my R9. Trust me, I've looked far and wide for something better, but in the realm of pocketpistols, the R9 is king IMHO.