The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: Jack_F on February 06, 2012, 02:21:22 PM
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Teaching CCW classes in the current Ohio work enviroment I find people do not have much money for a pistol. That said, what do you think the "best bang for the buck" would be?........... :-\
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C4 ;D ;D
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All around best value might be a used S&W j-frame. $400ish. If that is still too high, a used Taurus snubby.
On the semi-auto belt gun side -- S&W Thrid Gen Autoloader (like the 6906), Kel-Tec P-11 or a used Glock.
On the pocket gun side -- Ruger LCP, Kel-Tec P-3AT.
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+1 DDGator
A used J-Frame is tough to beat for a CCW without breaking the bank.
I like a bobbed hammer SP101 myself, but it's a bit too heavy.
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You didn't mention caliber or target price, but the Bersa 380's are a great value for money even if buying a new pistol. The have good sights and can stand up to quite a bit of shooting. Extra mags are reasonable. The size is ok for pocket, purse, or waistband carry.
If your students can learn double action, the J frame option is also good.
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I stood next to a gentleman firing a Bersa .380 and was astounded at his accuracy. He said that he was sighting in his wife's pistol, the Bersa. I held it and felt the same durable construction aspects that you describe.
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My issue with the Bersa is that it is very large for a .380 ACP. And its not that easy to shoot (recoil-wise) because its a blowback design. I think the quality is decent for the money.
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One more vote for a used/police trade-in Glock. I've seen them in the high $300 range which is right in line with other options. If they're looking for something requiring even less maintenance, I'd also agree with suggesting a used S&W J-Frame. Can't get much more reliable.
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I am willing to buy every sub-$400 used Glock I can find, so long as no one has done any home gunsmithing on it. ;) In fact, I prefer the Gen 2 guns. My "game gun" for the local IPSC matches is a Gen 2 Glock 17.
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Check out Summit Gun Broker. Funny you should mention it, I almost picked up a Gen2 G17 a few months ago for $385 but they were all sold by the time I made up my mind. Still kicking myself... Sometimes he'll also have some used HKs for mid $400s.
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Darn it! Just hopped on his site and he has all German Sig P220 CPOs for $555. Decisions...
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I am willing to buy every sub-$400 used Glock I can find, so long as no one has done any home gunsmithing on it. ;) In fact, I prefer the Gen 2 guns. My "game gun" for the local IPSC matches is a Gen 2 Glock 17.
Here's a Factory Referb Glock Gen2, Buy It Now, for $399.99; however description says Gen 1.
http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewItem.aspx?Item=272956852
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J-frame smith
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I would also cast my vote for a used Glock.
Bought both a 17 and 19 police trade ins about 7 years ago and they just keep being Glocks which means flawless function.
These were both factory refurbished.
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For budget CCW, it's hard to beat the Kahr CM9. It can usually be found for right around $400.
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Glock
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Glock
I'll second the Glock!
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I'm starting to see some sub $400 prices on used Springfield XD's, not the XDm's of course. They are a terrific value at that price as well and my be a better ergonomic fit for those who do not have Glock sized hands. Still, I know that all of us being on this forum aren't opposed to the 'mouse gun' and the times I've spent shooting the Ruger LCP has been nothing short of impressive thus far. I do not personally own one, but have pointed a few friends and family members in that direction after a few shooting opportunities with one. They are a great gun for the price and have not given me or anyone I know trouble thus far.
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Also, I looked closely at a Beretta Storm Compact 9mm today and was very impressed with their typical quality and ruggedness. This one has a reduced grip size that had a tactile feel to it with a proportional balance that felt quite natural. Like many others, there are replaceable back straps to adjust the size.
$499
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I've read some good things on the Beretta Storm pistols. Seem like a good value.
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I've found myself carrying my bodyguard revolver more and more recently, it is fantastic in an ankle holster or iwb. Bought mine new for 435 so you can probably find a used one for well under 400. Once sighted in the factory laser is spot on.
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Also, I looked closely at a Beretta Storm Compact 9mm today and was very impressed with their typical quality and ruggedness. This one has a reduced grip size that had a tactile feel to it with a proportional balance that felt quite natural. Like many others, there are replaceable back straps to adjust the size.
$499
It is funny, for some reason I forget all about Beretta firearms. This company has been making guns for a longer time period then any one else.
Back a few years ago when I had students every other week I was always asked the question what is a good gun, I never came up with Beretta for an answer.
I have read great things about the Storm, and I think that pistol has me taking another look at Berettas.
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The new Beretta Nano seems to be another pretty good option for inexpensive CCW. I've seen them below $380 recently.
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When sailing bareboat charters in island countries having those ridiculous laws forbidding civilians to possess firearms, I have found that devices of this type provide comfort to have on hand not only for signaling distress but also for use if needed for "predator-repellant" purposes. They not only are readily available at the local marina stores but also provide good close-up-and-personal "bang for the buck" -- particularly with phosphorus flares. Hell, they're better than a galley or dive knife should uninvited footsteps on deck be heard overhead in the middle of the night when anchored in some secluded foreign cove. And island customs/immigration officials don't give them a second glance when conducting on-board inspections when you arrive in port.
http://search.defender.com/?expression=fLARE+GUN&x=5&y=5
And when you return your boat to the charter company you just give the rig to the dock master as a gratuity. 8)