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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: Packard on September 21, 2010, 02:55:07 PM

Title: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Packard on September 21, 2010, 02:55:07 PM
My last pocketable pistol was my old Beretta 25 (single action only).  It rode in my back pocket for so many years that almost all of the bluing had rubbed off.  It is long gone now (replaced by the more potent pepper spray canister sitting in my vest pocket).

My question is, do you consider the Rohrbaugh 9mm a pocket carry weapon or is it just a little too thick for that?

My options are the Smith & Wesson Bodyguard in .380, or the Ruger RCP or (perhaps) the Rohrbaugh 9mm or the Kel-tec 9mm single stack.

The caliber (9mm) is certainly more appealing than the .380, but the local dealers do not carry the weapon and I've not handled one yet.

Clearly the Rohrbaugh is a larger investment in money (and apparently effort in light of some of the problems reported) than the others.

In any event I will not make up my mind until I've had a chance to handle one, but I'd like some feedback in advance.

Also, when it is not in your pocket, where do you carry it concealed?
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Corvette on September 21, 2010, 03:06:21 PM
IMO, unless you have very large pockets, the R9 is too large to fit into the category of a "pocket pistol".
But it is without a doubt, the best small 9mm money will buy.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: RickP on September 21, 2010, 03:20:46 PM
Packard

Welcome.

My R9 has lived in my pocket for a couple of years now. I have a Smartcarry, and a De Santis ankle holster but have not used either in over a year. The R9 is quite comfortable in it's HiddenHolsters pocket holster.

Once you do handle a R9 you will probably be hooked. I was and I am sure you will hear the same from others on this forum.

Rick
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: 4mallard on September 21, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
Packard:

I have found that the R9s in a DeSantis Nemesis rides in my right front pocket like it belongs there. I have only tried it in one pair of trousers with front pockets too small for it to fit comfortably. As a matter of fact, I carry a few other things in my pocket with the R9s, being one of the tiny Swiss Army pocket knives, a tube of Vaseline lip balm and a very small bottle of eye drops. It all fits fine. I place a folded handkerchief on the outside of the holster to absorb any "print-through", and I could forget it's all there - except I always know I'm armed.

If you're able to try a Rohrbaugh out, you will be tempted to forget about the other, smaller calibre stuff. But Rick is right. Beware, because familiarity, in this case, breeds addiction. You have been warned.

4mallard
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: ccoorreeyy on September 21, 2010, 05:20:25 PM
The R9 IS a pocketable pistol.  I carry front right pocket also with no problems.  I do think that the R9 is at the upper limits of size to qualify as a pocket pistol though.  

Where are you located?  We have forum members all over the country and one might be close enough to you to go check theirs out.  Just a thought.

Corey
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: eye_spy on September 21, 2010, 05:50:40 PM
The R9 was designed to be a pocket pistol and is very comfortable in all my front pockets.

I had the Keltec pf9, and it was a poorly constructed cheepo pistola.  See my post under proud new owner.

The r9 is not much harder to carry than a Ruger LCP (wife has one)  It is much more potent and MUCH better quality.

If you are very small, the LCP may make a noticeable difference, but I doubt you will mind the difference.

The r9 is a dream to carry, are there slightly more comfortable options? Yes.  But not in a quality pistol of useful calibur.

I don't wish to start a calibur bashing war, but I deal with criminal cases all of the time and I am not a true expert, but I have seen my client shot in the head with a .380.  He was arrested for brutally beating the $..t out of the guy who shot him point blank in the head.  The bullet broke the skin and bounced off his skull.

Bullet was a .380 acp jhp out of a walther I believe.

Any bullet can fail to stop, but in a small pistol, small caliburs can piss people off.

I look at it this way, a compact 9mm is like a full size .380
a compact .380 is like alarge .32 (if that's possible) and anything around a .32 is very questionable.

So, if you can be fairly comfortable with the r9, get it.  If you must go smaller, I would say the Ruger LCP or Ruger LCR is a good choice.  (I find the R9 more comfortable than the Ruger LCP)

Good Luck!
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: yankee2500 on September 21, 2010, 06:33:16 PM
Right front pocket 98% of the time. Right now I'm in NY and feel naked with no pup (hell no gun)  :o

John
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: kjtrains on September 21, 2010, 07:10:37 PM
Packard.  Welcome to the Forum.  I carry a Meco back pocket holster, but in the front pocket.  I prefer the back pocket holster because of the back flap and it doesn't print.  I only carry in the front pocket.  Best of luck in your decision.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: tracker on September 21, 2010, 07:14:59 PM

Through my own inattention I have arrived at my hotel in NYC and discovered an empty Glock magazine on one occasion and six rounds of GD on another. Both of them went through security at departure point unnoticed. I sent the magazine back to myself via Fedex and threw the Gold Dots into the East River on the other occasion. What a country!
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Alphonso on September 21, 2010, 08:20:55 PM
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...Clearly the Rohrbaugh is a larger investment in money (and apparently effort in light of some of the problems reported) than the others.


I'd say that the Rohrbaugh has considerably fewer problems reported than any of the other semis you are considering...
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: kjtrains on September 21, 2010, 08:29:19 PM
Packard.  Once you get one R9, you MAY want another.  I do have to stress may, though; doesn't necessarily happen to all.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: theirishguard on September 22, 2010, 10:49:16 AM
Packard, welcome, enjoy and go for it. It's a great pocket pistol. Tom
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Packard on September 22, 2010, 11:09:24 AM
Right now I'm just doing research.  The cooler weather is coming up and a Glock 27 will conceal easily under a light sweater or sweater-vest (or sweat shirt).  

Come next summer however the Glock is migrating to the ankle and I want something that I can pocket.  

The feedback here is excellent.  I will post some more questions soon.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: tracker on September 22, 2010, 11:16:11 AM

Packard,

If the R9 were not viable as a pocket pistol Rohrbaugh would not have sold 5,000 of them. As you described, the Glock 27 would be a weapon of wide choice outside the pocket.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: kjtrains on September 22, 2010, 11:34:43 AM
Packard.  You've definitely come to the right place for info on the R9.  There's a host of folks here who can answer your questions and if not, there's always Maria at Rohrbaugh who can answer or get you an answer, 1-800-803-2233.  Wishing you the best in your decision.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Ucitykid on September 22, 2010, 02:03:27 PM
Packard,  I along with all the others welcome you to this forum.  My R9 stealth sits in my left front pocket in a DeSantis Nemesis and is quite comfortable with nearly all my pants.  So, yes it is a pocket pistol for me.

Once you handle one you will not be able to put it back!  Beware, you have been warned.  My other pistol is an H&K P7 which is NOT a pocket pistol.

Regards and welcome again, Ucitykid
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Packard on September 22, 2010, 03:59:00 PM
I thank everyone for the warm welcome.

Regards,


Packard
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: IOM on September 22, 2010, 05:10:33 PM
I prefer to carry a G 33 when I can. The rest of the time it's the R9s. I carry the R9 in the front pocket, back pocket, and a smartcarry.

David
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Reinz on September 22, 2010, 08:41:48 PM
Welcome Packard.

The R9 is the holy grail of pocket pistols!

Might be hard for those tight disco jean wearers, but it was love at first sight for me.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Recluse on September 22, 2010, 10:37:54 PM
Another factor-

Depends on the pocket!

As a guy who makes pocket holsters, I can tell you that Levi brand jeans have shallow back pockets, and don't work well.

Wrangler jeans have much deeper pockets.

My wife has bought me a few pairs of more expensive "designer" jeans, and they all work well with an R9 in the pocket.  I usually wear Costco jeans, which work pretty well.

Almost all jeans and dress slacks work fine for front-pocket carry.

Just something else to consider....

If you decide to get a Rohrbaugh, I doubt you will ever be disappointed.

Because of the holsters I make, I've got the Ruger LCP, Taurus TCP, Kahr .380, S&W Bodyguard, and Kel-Tec .380, but my daily carry is the Rohrbaugh.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Richard S on September 23, 2010, 07:43:29 AM
Packard:

A belated welcome from me as well.

For what it is worth in your consideration, I have the right-front pockets of every new pair of slacks, trousers, or BDU's deepened to prevent the concealed pistol from being visible to anyone who may be standing behind me in some checkout line somewhere. The seamstress who does this work has become very adept at the process and is altering a new pair of BDUs for me this week. She charges only $10.00 (material included) for the work, which she describes as "making a holster holster." After seeing how well it helps to conceal a pocket pistol, she has now obtained her own carry permit, and does the same alteration for herself.

The dimensions I have settled on for these altered pockets are 12" deep from the belt line along the front seam and the pocket squared 5" wide at the bottom. If one of the altered pockets begins to show wear after a couple of years from the holstered pistol's rubbing against the leg, I simply repair it with one of those iron-on denim patches you can find at most large grocery or department stores. The repair is not visible and actually serves to strngthen the pocket.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: birdman on September 24, 2010, 10:31:57 PM
     Packard, first of all welcome to the forum. I think you'll like it here. I know I do, every time I access this site I feel like I'm walking thru the door to my home. I know is a long shot, but if you happened to live anywhere near me I'd be happy to let you shoot them. I have a couple each of 9mm and .380. I live in southeast washington st. If  you live close enough then send me a PM and we'll get together.    Gene
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: yankee2500 on September 24, 2010, 11:20:53 PM
Gene,
   I looked at Packard's profile and he lives across the country from you, in Poughkeepsie, NY. Fine gesture though.

John
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Reinz on September 25, 2010, 01:00:04 AM
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Packard:

A belated welcome from me as well.

For what it is worth in your consideration, I have the right-front pockets of every new pair of slacks, trousers, or BDU's deepened to prevent the concealed pistol from being visible to anyone who may be standing behind me in some checkout line somewhere. The seamstress who does this work has become very adept at the process and is altering a new pair of BDUs for me this week. She charges only $10.00 (material included) for the work, which she describes as "making a holster holster." After seeing how well it helps to conceal a pocket pistol, she has now obtained her own carry permit, and does the same alteration for herself.

The dimensions I have settled on for these altered pockets are 12" deep from the belt line along the front seam and the pocket squared 5" wide at the bottom. If one of the altered pockets begins to show wear after a couple of years from the holstered pistol's rubbing against the leg, I simply repair it with one of those iron-on denim patches you can find at most large grocery or department stores. The repair is not visible and actually serves to strngthen the pocket.


That's great insurance!
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Aglifter on September 25, 2010, 11:18:04 PM
I always pocket carry my pup... Of course, I also pocket carry a 329 NG from time to time...
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Packard on September 27, 2010, 11:08:30 AM
My computer died the other day and they are having problems transferring the data from my old one to the new.  I hope to be up and runnning from home in a few days.  This explains the delay in responding to you guys.

I have a silly (yet crucial) question to add to this:  How do you pronounce "Rohrbaugh"?  I hate to walk into a gun shop and make a fool of myself because I said "rawbag" by mistake.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Reinz on September 27, 2010, 11:15:01 AM
Roar as in what a lion does.

and

Baugh, as in humbug.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Reinz on September 27, 2010, 11:16:49 AM
And not a silly question at all, I'm sure others, especially guests have wondered the same.
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: kjtrains on September 27, 2010, 11:46:10 AM
Reinz.  Good remembering techique.  I even know how to pronouce the name and have trouble at times; have to think about the word.  This will help greatly.  
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Reinz on September 27, 2010, 12:58:52 PM
I know what you mean.

There have been times when I take pause.  :)
Title: Re: Pocketable pistols
Post by: Packard on September 27, 2010, 04:33:38 PM
It would have been a lot easier if the gun manufacturer was named "Pete".  Pistol Pete is much easier to remember.