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Rohrbaugh Products and Accessories => Rohrbaugh R9 (all variations) => Topic started by: M380 on April 23, 2009, 09:44:40 AM
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Got a line on a used R9, anything I should be looking for as far as to watch out for?, I have the serial number, it's R16xx, I don't want to wait to jump on it, if it's good :o
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I just sold a used R9 with only 100 rounds through it. R9 is not a gun that is abused but I would make conditional offer: Ask for a 5 day period in which to return the gun if it does not meet your approval or has any issues. This is commonly done and should work for you.
good luck.
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Good advice! I would ask how many rounds had been through it as it may need a new recoil spring.
Good luck!! :) :)
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M380,
So what happened? Did you get the R9 and negotiate terms as suggested?
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I actually turned down the sale..........here's why. the guy who is selling it, is someone I don't know, but he was asking $975, as is, no returns, all sales final, void where prohibited.
I asked for the serial number so I could check with Maria,a bout its build date, etc. Well, after talking with her, I found out, that the warrenty is NOT transferable to a second owner(strike one).
Next, his serial number indicated his pup was in need of new recoil springs, and mag springs, which I would have to pay for, since warrenty would not transfer to me (strike two).
...and finally, he would not budge on the price (strike three). I decided, it would be best if I just buy one new. For that kind of $$$$ I can't risk an expensive warrenty related issue.
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Good decision!! :) :)
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can I help? Tom
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M380
You made the right decision and listen to Tom.
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I just wonder if I should wait for the R45 to come out. ::)
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Perhaps they should make the R45 in .45 GAP, same ballistics as .45 ACP, length of a 9mm round.
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R45 is not happening anytime soon. There are many of us who love .45ACP but no present plans exist for big bore (to my knowledge).
.45 GAP is a failure. It was Glock's attempt to answer to the .357 Sig and .40 S&W. With present ammo crisis, perhaps the .45 GAP might re-emerge but I don't think so.
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I spoke with the factory last week and as a joke I ordered a R45 along with several things I needed that they actually do sell. I was told, after she figured out my bad joke, that it was not going to be a reality any time soon. With production taking all the Rohrgbaugh's time they don't have time for the needed design/development to get us a R45.
Side note: I would love for it to be a 45 gap!
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Karl Rohrbaugh is working on the R45 as time permits. however it will be awhile. Tom
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I have a Glock 39 (45 GAP) and like it alot.
One thing with the current ammo shortage is that, being it's not a popular round, it's still available.
Of course, once current inventory runs out it'll be impossible to find for a LONG time. I can't imagine the factories will stop to produce more 45 GAP while they're currently going 24/7 trying to keep up with the mainstream stuff. This past weekend I picked up another 4 boxes at the local gun show specifically because of this likelyhood.
I also managed to pick up 400 rounds of 9mm WWB. The Silvertips are still proving elusive however.
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You have made my point as to availability of .45 GAP ammo. Glock has reduced pricing and/or featured "specials" for their .45 GAP guns.
I confess, I have never tried the round as I am admittedly a .45ACP partisan. Glock's thinking was that they could do for the .45ACP what the .40S&W did for the 10MM.
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Although this ammo shortage may be temporary due to hoarding,
etc., it is very difficult to get charged up about a new car when
there is no gas at the pump.
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I don't consider the .45 GAP a failure. As a matter of fact, it's much more successful than the .357 SIG. The purpose was not just to get the Glock name on a new cartridge, it addresses a problem of grip frame size that couldn't be solved with the .45 ACP.
4 state police agencies have adopted the 45 gap; New York, Pennsylvania, Georgia, and South Carolina, and more are considering it. Why?
1. It fits in a smaller grip frame than the .45 ACP, which fit the majority of officer's hands better.
2. The stopping power of the .45 ballistics (.45 colt/.45 ACP/.45 GAP) are proven.
3. It does not have over-penetration issues like the .40 S&W.
4. In extensive testing, which came down to the .40 S&W vs. the .45 GAP, more officers preferred the recoil pattern of the .45 GAP to the .40 S&W, saying it was more of a "push" than a "snap" like the .40 S&W.
The .45 GAP is basically a .45 ACP shortened to the length of a 9mm. It makes sense. You've got .45 ACP ballistics in a smaller and lighter package. It seems perfect for a R45. If you were starting from scratch, and had to pick from 2 catridges that were brand new and had equal power/ballistics, wouldn't it make sense to pick the smaller/lighter one, especially if you were designing a ground-breaking small pocket pistol?
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The bore to axis ratio makes more of a "push" with Glocks in all calibers, as that is how they are engineered. The Glock grip is configured such that the web of the hand is higher up than, say, a 1911, causing less muzzle flip.
I am not a fan of the .40, but I do like the .357 Sig.
The proof offered as to the worthiness of the GAP is stronger than I had previously believed, based upon what is claimed above. However, make mine .45ACP. Whatever proof you may have as to the GAP, it is (in my view) an attempt to improve upon what is already perfect.
In the interest of full disclosure my handle (ACP) is my initials, backwards.
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The New York state testing of the .40S&W and the .45GAP were both in Glocks, I believe the model 22 and 37, respectively.
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For whatever it is worth the Texas State Highway Patrol switched
from .40 to .357 Sig and are very happy with the accuracy and
stopping power. One thing I wonder about in these choices is the
noise level in each caliber; apparently, the .45 has fewer decibels
than the 9mm, which is less than the .357 Sig, etc.. If someone
wants to lose their hearing just try firing a full cylinder of .357
magnum.
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I guess I just like .45s, pretty much all of them, maybe it's the big holes. I never thought of the noise as an advantage if you have to shoot it without hearing protection.
I've got a bond derringer in .45 colt with a trigger job by Bob Munden, one sweet little gun. I have to admit I've carried it a few times and somehow don't feel helpless with just two shots of .45 colt.
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Ouch! A derringer in .45 Colt? I guess I would feel safe carrying it too. A big bore is intimidating to a bad guy