The Rohrbaugh Forum
Miscellaneous => Other Guns => Topic started by: kanuist on April 11, 2010, 02:27:32 PM
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I really like Sig's new P238 with it's safety and slide lock.
Best: Night Sights
Worst: Only comes in .380
http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=67&productid=266
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Not too bad at all. Like you said, it isn't a 9mm. I like the silver one tone as far as color goes.
http://www.sigsauer.com/Products/ShowCatalogProductDetails.aspx?categoryid=67&productid=289
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I love these guns; wish they were 9mm.
They shoot great, no recoil at all and way accurate.
I have the Equinox with a laser and the Liberty.
(http://www.sigsauerguns.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/sig-sauer-p238-equinox.jpg)
(http://www.mystore.com/images/38583_images/prod_id_75125.jpg)
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I like the look of them but thats about it, they are Longer, wider and weigh more than a Kahr PM9 and are still a 380 with a $700+ MSRP.
Also for shooters who use DA only type guns (Glocks, Rohrbaughs, LCPs etc) the 1911 style safety would be a challenge to remember in a draw and shoot situation when one is used to just pulling the trigger. IMO
John
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It is a nice looking gun!
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Feels good in the hand too, I looked at them when they first came out and I like the option to change grips, something you can't do on the Poly frames.
John
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I just about got the Sig in .357 sig, however, went with the Glock.
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Its a very easy gun to shoot well weak handed.
Everything is unfamiliar with the weak hand. Being a lefty, I like the single action for my weak right hand.
The PM9 is indeed better but not in a back pocket.
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I have one of the early models, 1100's ser # Been back to SIG twice, a nice pocket gun when on my Harley.
I have a pocket holster locked into the chest pocket of my leather vest. While the Sig was in for repair I carried the R9, just put Hogue extreme grips on her with the black screws, I am amazed at the grip on my pup now what with Yankees mag extension and the new grips, its pretty good.
I did not realize that the extreme (rough grip edge) was all around the perimeter of the grip as well as the checkering in the middle,
I like!
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Early ones had some problems as do many pocket autos. They seem to have the teething problems worked out now.
Here is a link about a guy who shot an attacking pack of dogs/coyotes with a P238. Warning that the subsequent 8 pages of blather are people arguing over whether the .380 is good enough or not.
http://thefiringline.com/forums/showthread.php?t=425902&highlight=380+dog
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One word: "Placement."
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Unlike a lot of .380s, the Sig IS a range gun.
You will WANT to shoot it.
You will have fun shooting it and you will get deadly accurate with it.
Placement; I has it.
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Just got my 238 back from SIG service 2 1/2 weeks, they changed the extractor, adjusted the slide stop spring? (never heard of that one) polished the barrel ramp and she seems to shoot fine with all 4 of my 3rd generation mags now.
I remembered that I had some old Kimber 9mm mag base extensions laying around. I took apart two of my 238 mags, drilled, tapped, cleaned and assembled the base's to each mag and this is the result. I had purchased a kit a few years ago with the 3/32 drill bit and a 4-40 tap.
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af1/My_Stuff2010/IMG_0425.jpg)
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af1/My_Stuff2010/IMG_0424.jpg)
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af1/My_Stuff2010/IMG_0423.jpg)
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af1/My_Stuff2010/IMG_0421.jpg)
(http://i988.photobucket.com/albums/af1/My_Stuff2010/IMG_0419.jpg)
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Great work, there, JW. Excellent looking gun!
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Unlike a lot of .380s, the Sig IS a range gun.
You will WANT to shoot it.
You will have fun shooting it and you will get deadly accurate with it.
Placement; I has it.
Josey,
Good idea with the extensions, looks like a good fit. I tried one of my R9 extensions on the Kahr PM9 and it fit perfect, you never know what parts you can interchange if you don't try.
I just can't grasp the idea of a 380auto for a range gun, the ammo is as much as 45acp and harder to come by.
John
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Well I know of a range that has one for rent.
Smart idea because to shoot is to want in this case.
They sell bushels of them.
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Cool guns, looked hard at them at the gun shop. Could not put it down. But then, just could not justify buying it when I already had the best you can buy - R9. I knew I would never carry that Sig.
I felt like I would be wasting my $.
I was looking at it from a practical/carrying side, not a "lets buy another gun" side.
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Reinz,
My sentiments exactly, looks nice feels good but why spend the money for a 380 that size and weight.
John
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Have to agree, Reinz and John, but that Sig does look good.
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Being an "addict", I'm sure I will be found at a weak moment with money in my pocket and one of those cool little guns on a table or under glass and an exchange will take place. ;D
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I'll probably be in the same boat, although don't own a Sig at the moment.
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From what I have been reading, you seem to be in "Glock" mode right now.
Sooner or later you will get yourself a Sig, but don't do because of any hype, you will be disappointed.
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Well, I only have the one Glock and do like it, for sure. The thing just spits out those .357 sigs as fast as you can pull the trigger without ever a hiccup. Hard not to like something that reliable.
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The words Glock and reliable are truely synonymous.
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Well since you corrected me, it seem from your posts that you have intentions of aquiring more Glocks. Right?
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Don't know where I corrected you ;D but probably will and don't know which one. I like power and may still think about the 10mm.
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My Wife carries a P-238 Rainbow Titanium . She loves that gun. She is a big fan of 1911 style pistols. Next one she wants is a Kimber Raptor Ultra in Stainless.
Chief
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Chief:
I must somehow keep my wife from seeing that photograph. It is one beautiful piece of pistolcraft!
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Chief, have you got your custom 1911 yet? Tom
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Actually I have, plus my 1911 collection is growing. It seems Ed Brown is not very hungry and their customer service reflected that , so I canceled my order with them and went to Nighthawk, and bought a Predator and a Talon II Bobtail.
The Talon II is back at Nighthawk right now having some upgrades done. Since it is a lightweight frame (Aluminum) I am having it converted to a Rampless Barrel and a Ramp on the Frame, giving me the ability to feed more types of 45ACP to it. Also going to a Carbon Steel Barrel, giving me a much smoother and harder barrel than Stainless. I am looking for a Nighthawk T3 now.
Chief
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Chief. Where've you been? Been over a month. Does seem like you've been busy. Hope you find the Nighthawk T3.
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I guess it has been a while. We ran out to Arizona and played for a few weeks, then when we got back, my brothers stopped by on their way to taking the motorhome from Ohio to Hilton Head for the winter.
One of my brothers is the reason why I am having the work done to my Talon II. He was firing the gun at the range and got a bad round. Since he was unfamiliar with the gun , he did not realize it and so he fired another round through it while the bad bullet was lodged in the barrel, Negaiting the barrel. Hence the pistol gets sent off to Nighthawk for some upgrades. I do not like rebuilding something as good as it was, I always look for improvements/upgrades. The system I am going with is something Nighthawk has just started getting into.
Chief
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Cheif - I assume your brother was not hurt?
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http://www.sigsauer.com/products/ShowOtherProduct.aspx?categoryid=67&height=320&width=580
The P238 is the beanie baby of .380s.
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Ya just gotta like this thing. Very nice!
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Cheif - I assume your brother was not hurt?
He is fine. The only thing that happened is the Barrel got a bulge in it. Then , while I was troubleshooting the Talon, he did the same thing to my Predator. He said he felt no differance in recoil at all. The Predator's damage was a split Barrel. So they both went off to the factory. It is a tribute to Nighthawk that this was all the damage done. The following day I disassembled all rounds in that box and discarded.
Chief
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Chief. Knowing that Nighthawk makes excellent guns, your brother is a very lucky, lucky man. Glad he's OK.
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He is fine. The only thing that happened is the Barrel got a bulge in it. Then , while I was troubleshooting the Talon, he did the same thing to my Predator. He said he felt no differance in recoil at all. The Predator's damage was a split Barrel. So they both went off to the factory. It is a tribute to Nighthawk that this was all the damage done. The following day I disassembled all rounds in that box and discarded.
Chief
Chief,
I'm glad no one was hurt, but I would think twice about letting your brother shoot any of your guns again. ;D ;D
May be an oman. :o
John
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John. I was thinking that, but glad you said it! ;D
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Cheif - glad your brother and no else was injured.
Too bad if it Had to happen, it would rather have been a much lower priced handgun(s).
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Lower priced guns may have gotten someone hurt. I am not even telling my brothers it is costing me anything. Just told them "don't worry, lifetime warrantee" I am looking at the upside, No one got hurt and I am getting my guns retuned by the factory. All pieces are being micrometered out, both guns are getting upgraded, and retested with test sheet just as new. They also went to the head of the line as far as working on them goes. Nighthawk's policy is to take care of existing customers first. That is one reason why their customer service is #1
Chief
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Were these reloads?
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Good point about the lower priced guns.
And, LOVE that Nighthwak policy on existing customers!
Custom pricing comes with custom care.